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R-685 for cable, R-785 for Di2, the problem is already solved.>
I am not saying they are not available, I just don't see why I should pay
£2500+ for a complete bike to get them because it's nothing new.
They have been proven for decades on MTBs, hybrids etc.Also these workaround solutions like HY/RD etc just delay the complete switch.
For me the hydraulic part is more important than discs.hydr. disc > hydr. rim > obsolete crap
R-685 for cable, R-785 for Di2, the problem is already solved.