• I'm thinking of building a steel road bike around an otp frame. Something like a surly pacer, but lighter would be nice of possible. I want to stick with a standard (british) bottom bracket, and like the idea of steel forks rather than carbon. Mudguard compatibility is optional as I already have a winter/ touring bike and fixed with full guards.

    What's out there other than the surly? If it costs too much I'd just go custom, so since a pacer can be had for circa £350 as a frame set I guess it could be my only option. But surely there's an alternative that I've missed. Hit me with your suggestions.

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