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• #52
All of the options depending on situation. My "other" is to dismount and use the pedestrian crossing phase to walk across where I know that's actually quicker than waiting to ride at that junction.
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• #53
So over 80% of the people who answered the poll either hang back or pass right to get ahead.
If only this proportion was the case in the real world. I did a little count on the A10. In 30mins 49 riders (excluding rljers) encountered the red light, 42 squeezed left, 6 passed right and 1 stayed in the traffic stream. -
• #54
Oops, I forgot to post something serious here. I didn't answer the question as what I do depends on quite a few factors involved in a particular situation, and in some cases I'd do one thing, and in some cases the opposite.
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• #55
If a law banning cyclists from filtering on the left were to be enacted and enforced, would that be a good thing or a bad thing, overall ?
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• #56
A bad thing. Filtering on the left is often fine. It's just bad to plonk yourself down in the most vulnerable position, on the far left at the junction mouth. Obviously, you can also crash into pedestrians emerging from between stationary cars on your right, but the same thing can happen if you filter on the right.
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• #57
So over 80% of the people who answered the poll either hang back or pass right to get ahead.
If only this proportion was the case in the real world. I did a little count on the A10. In 30mins 49 riders (excluding rljers) encountered the red light, 42 squeezed left, 6 passed right and 1 stayed in the traffic stream.Did you record the count of rljers? If so, how many were there?
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• #58
No I didn't record them. Not many people rljd
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• #59
No worries, just curious as to % age rlj in that time you were there.
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• #60
Shorter word with the added benefit of getting weak tea spat at screens across London.
Rep..
Why did nobody else like this
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• #61
I nearly always hang back unless there are only 2 or 3 cars and an ASL and the drivers can clearly see me moving up (e.g. There is clear space for me to move or take off if the lights change).
As a car driver I'm aware of how impatient some drivers can be at traffic lights, and if there is slow moving traffic ahead, I will usually overtake them at that point anyway. I I like to ride in positions where I am reasonably visible to car drivers, not sure if this is down to the cycle training or the fact I used to drive 50,000 miles a year for work, so am very aware what a driver can or can't see.
Oh and when I'm in my four wheels I am always kind and considerate to cyclists, giving them lots of space and letting them pull out where necessary.
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• #63
We should organise mass queues at lights here in London.
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• #64
If not just for the sweet rolls.
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• #65
That film sort of reminds me of the contra-flow introduced on Rivington Street a few years ago. The street used to be one way for all traffic in varying directions along its length, yet was a really good cut along Shoreditch east-west so plenty of cyclists routinely ignored the restrictions to cycle along it's length (as streets by their nature encourage one to do!).
Now it's permitted for cycles to use it along it's length. Well done whoever got that sorted! Hackney Cyclists no doubt.
I'm all for ignoring restrictions where they are stupid.
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• #66
what struck me most about that video is that it (the news item about the mass police fining) apparently convinced the council to rearrange the lights immediately whereas years of talks, lobbying etc. trying to prove exactly this point failed to do so. in that regard, mass action and consequently media attention might indeed be the only way to get things done.
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• #67
Hackney Cyclists no doubt.
Indeed. Soon to come: modal filtering in the eastern part of Rivington Street.
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• #68
A dutchman complaining about infrastructure and "if only the layout toook account of cyclists"...
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• #69
well I'm not really complaining, I've ridden bikes in many countries and I alway feel safest back home. Having said that, there's lots to be improved here in NL... I work as a bike messenger a couple of hours a week and it is sometimes mind boggling that layouts that worked very well in the past (and even drew excursions of city planners from around the world to my town) get rearranged back to accommodate more cars instead of more bikes.
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• #70
happens every morning in Bloomsbury on the segregated cycle lane, :-)
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• #71
Was it you that was commentating? No offence taken, just the comments stand out when compared to riding in London!
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• #72
happens every morning in Bloomsbury on the segregated cycle lane, :-)
Sweet rolls?
I don't even know what they are but I want some.
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• #73
ah! no it wasn't me, the film is about the city of Utrecht (incomparable to London indeed)
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• #74
rolling-on looks to be going legit in some parts of the globe, :-)
A proposed ordinance would make the city the largest to allow bicyclists to roll past stop signs if the path is clear.
Assuming it's a pavement and not a shared use path or cycle path, I'd suggest staying off it.