The Chinvelo R3

Hey Erik, this is awesome. Is this BB30?

Very nice!

Is this the FM015 frame?

FM066, I would've thought.

Thanks guys!

yes its a hong fu FM066 SL

This is the current setup
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/436432/dadstand.jpg

Plenty of photos here: http://www.the5thfloor.co.uk/2013/03/27/bikecheck-the-66/

Where'd you get the decals made? Been looking for some

can i ask how much the frameset cost? also what camera did you take the pics with, they look ace.

@erikjonsson Have you still got this bike? How's it holding up?

I think he still has and so do I (1100 miles) its absolutely fine. What do you want to know?

Just wondering about the general longevity of them, do you find the usual stress points durable? I'm sure they're fine, I'm just trying to get rid of any doubt! They look interesting, next road upgrade would either be one of these or maybe a CAAD10.

The black and green on @erikjonsson 's looks fancy.

Get it; they last as much as any other bike out there. Its cheaper than CAAD10; less harsh given its carbon and the pencil thin stays. I weigh 66kg (I have rode it when i was about 80kg too) and I ride it everyday as a commuter and in bad weather/winter as trainer. http://www.pedalroom.com/bike/fm066-13865

Hong fu will paint it in any Pantone shade you want for extra $40. Make sure they dont paint the seatpost. Mine was stuck in the frame because of that. They also do BSA or BB30 BB standard; mine is BSA.

@amey that's a sweet ride

been lately looking into the hong fu the road disc frame so naturally interested as how these hold up.

nices rides the both of you @erikjonsson & @amey

fvll black logos only in the parts is relevant to my interests

Thread hijack alert......

@FFF check out the FR320 frame on eBay http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/371175402744?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_sacat%3D0%26_nkw%3D371175402744%26_rdc%3D1

If you're looking for a disc braked road frame they're great, and cheap! I had one and would highly recommend it. I only got rid of it because the governing body here got arsey about me racing with disc brakes..... I'd get another tomorrow

Now I'm very tempted to sell my current frame, did you get hit with import charges?

what is the build quality like on these frames?

How do you judge that?

yeh I'm also keen to know about the import charges. I've been in touch with hong fu but I'm hesitant to just be a cheeky fuck and asked them to mark it down for customs, did they do this for you @amey?

Yes they will mark down if you ask. My or erik's experience might be out of date .. ask @robadob . He got a frameset recently. You are most likely to be stung by duties and handling charges.

What is the ride like on this compared to your madone @amey

And what is the internal cabling like? Sleeved? Or the annoying "holes in the frame - get it out with a bent coathanger" type?

Hmm I was/am never good at comparing or describing ride quality ..

Madone 'feels' much lighter (not sure if it is) when climbing esp out of saddle; yet VERY stable at the same time. Stiff. I have done only about 600 miles on it so cant really judge yet. It has a far better ride quality than Fm066. I have no idea what it is.

Fm066 is more comfortable on bad surfaces. And for the given cost which is 1/3rd of Madone I'd say the ride quality is about half as good .. if any of that makes sense.

Internal cables on FM066 is piss easy to set up. Not sleeved but the openings for cables are big with removable stops; I used my cadence magnet. Its easy. I never felt the need of sleeves ..

Ok. Cheers, good to know.

Cool, thanks for the heads up @amey!

How well is the carbon layered around the stress points? How likely are these to explode when ridden?

How would one possibly know? ...unless you watched the carbon being laid and knew what you were looking at, or perhaps an x-ray?

The thicker, less dense carbon on these and older big brand bikes is tough, quite resistant to knocks etc compared with thin, high-density layups on top-end bikes. It is also heavier, less stiff and cheaper to build.

What leads to problems/failures are design faults and less than perfect practice when laying up – not something you can see.

This is not supposed to read as dismissive of open-mould frames at all, just an fyi.