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I must have it wrong then if I go against the views of others. I think there is a difference between stopping a foot or so over a line and blatantly going through the whole junction but maybe I'm in the minority that doesn't see everything in black and white, and compare everything in pure whataboutery. What happened to being responsible for your own actions, rather than "they do it so I'll do it"?
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I must have it wrong then if I go against the views of others
Must you?
I think there is a difference
Yes. You've stated as much. And you were asked what is the difference...
What happened to being responsible for your own actions, rather than "they do it so I'll do it"?
Where was it suggested that this wasn't the case? Other than by your implication of shared responsibility, that is...
NotThamesWater
So it's about how visible the traffic offence is? And somehow dependent on the layout of the road?
I don't know if I see it differently or not, as you're failing to explain how you see it - What's the difference between a cyclist crossing the stop line on a red light, or a driver crossing the stop line on a red light?