• A car that sits in the advanced cycle zone imo is not the same as the huge amount of cyclists that I have seen that cycle straight through a set of lights.

    What's the difference then?

    red light jumping by cyclists is becoming my biggest hate.

    What's your current biggest hate (assuming we're keeping within the context of road users' behaviours) - We can only hope that it's drivers jumping red lights, speeding, driving carelessly, using mobiles and all those other things that actually endanger other road users.

  • Maybe you see things differently. I would suggest that sitting on a box that is still normally a couple of meters behind the pedestrian crossing is not the same as going straight through a red light, either crossing the paths of other motorists or 2 lots of pedestrian crossings. Although as I mentioned, you may see it differently.

    Having only seen a car blatantly go through a red light when either another lane of traffic was crossing it's part, or when the pedestrian crossing was showing a green man a few times, I would say the reaction to such an occurrence is normally quite rightly extreme. The first thing I would think is are they drunk, is it stolen etc. On a bike, people almost expect it.

  • So it's about how visible the traffic offence is? And somehow dependent on the layout of the road?

    I don't know if I see it differently or not, as you're failing to explain how you see it - What's the difference between a cyclist crossing the stop line on a red light, or a driver crossing the stop line on a red light?

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