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  • All of the own-team rankings (i.e. 13s) are excluded from the tally. I don't know of a way to set up an online poll where you can rank all other teams but not your own. This could happen by people sending me a ranking, but that gets quite unwieldy in terms of data management. Doing it with a single online ranking poll makes it easy. Since all the team own-votes are discounted, then it should be fine. No?

  • This could happen by people sending me a ranking, but that gets quite unwieldy in terms of data management. Doing it with a single online ranking poll makes it easy. Since all the team own-votes are discounted, then it should be fine. No?

    Not 100% sure about this - but shouldnt you be dividing the number of 'points' a team accumulates by the COUNT of the number of votes they receive?

    Because: some teams will receive more COUNTs of votes than others, because the voting was individual-based, but the ranking is team-based.
    Some teams will have two, or even three, members voting.

    e.g.
    Only 1 member of Team H votes in the ballot, and 3 people from Team G vote in the ballot.
    At the end of the voting, they end up with the same number of 'points'.
    And let's say the total number of voters is 22.

    Team G gets 134 points, from 19 votes (because 3 people couldnt vote for themselves)
    Team H gets 140 points, from 21 votes (because 1 person couldnt vote for themselves)

    So in that case, Team H actually has a better ranking, they end up with a lower score (points divided by COUNT). Team G is 7.05263, but Team H is 6.66666

    Noticably different result, right?

    (I'm using COUNT because it is an Excel term and I hope that makes it clearer what I mean)

  • This is a super good point, working out an average rank would be fairer.

    We've really got three leagues worth of ability levels but only two leagues worth of teams. I do like the idea of a preseason play off for next year though.

  • In the current system each team gets the same number of votes.

    Each person ranks the 12 other teams. I just delete all the all values of 13 from each ranking. If there are 22 voters then each team is ranked by 22 people. The ranking is the average across the 22 votes. It is very straightforward.

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