Cannondale SystemSix Team Si

Best to trust your feelings on this one, spotter.

That's impossible! Even for a computer!

The Germans in my club recommend Red brifters with Force.

@spotter pm'd you man, this could work nicely :)

Also great choice on the force stuff, this is gonna be good!

I trust A23 rims at lower spoke counts. I don't mind having heaver rims if they're stronger, These are never going to be mega light wheels, that's what carbon are for.

I actually really like that stem so it's staying* for the moment.

*well I might get a 130mm version

I have a spare Kalloy (110mm) if you want to try it out ..

@bmx_fred @TooTallTim
Hmm maybe I'll look in to them then, thanks for the tip off.

Well, the cap fits in the SuperSix forks so I think it would fit, if you've got one going spare I would gladly take it, thanks.

If I do get other brakes, I would just buy the groupset without the force brakes sorry.

I'll bare that in mind, thanks.

Have you consider Archetype rims?

I don't reckon the archetypes, even in dark grey ano would suit the dale. And they only go to 24 right?

The nicest bit of New Force is the crank. They do a BB30 version ya know.

Those Px brakes can die in a ditch on fire with that stem.

I was thinking have it in black ( decal removed if required)

Plus they do loads of holes for spotters height range.

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/h-plus-son-archetype-road-rim/?lang=en&curr=GBP&dest=1&utm_source=pla&utm_medium=base&utm_campaign=uk&utm_content=H%20Plus%20Son%20Archetype%20Road%20Rim%20-%2028%20Hole%20Black%20%7C%20Rims&kpid=5360655529&sku=5360655529&ci_src=18615224&ci_sku=5360655529uk#buy-options

Fuck off all this talk of Kinlin or Archetype bollocks

Ardennes or Pacentis or 'winter carbon'

Wiggle has archetypes? when did they start stocking them?

Definitely would remove the decals - also don't like the rough texture on the black rims. a smooth satin or polished black would be nicer. Anyway, that's purely aesthetics, they're nice rims to ride on.

^^That's more like it.

Winter carbon?

Fuck Archetypes, there's something about them I just hate, I seem them on every other bike these days too.

If I was actually serious about winter wheels I'd get HED Belgiums, but that would explode my budget. I was thinking 20/24 with the A23s.

Those Px brakes can die in a ditch on fire with that stem.

Well that seals the deal for me the howard, i'll get some!

Leftfield rim suggestion: Stan's Grail. <--- eh, don't have a brake track. Duh. Alphas then.

I've no idea why anyone would want brakes that don't work though

Fuck Archetypes

Ya this. Aren't A23s noodley as fuck at low spoke count though? Gonna feel shit on a lightweight stiff race frame.

Well I spoke to a wheel builder, he said i'd be ok on that spoke count unless I go mad for cobbles. I suppose I could go 24/28 ...

They're a bit pricey at almost £80 a pop, I was thinking more like £50 a rim

Winter carbon?

i.e. spend all your pocket money on brake pads

Yeah. Winter Carbon.

Carbon wheels to ride through the winter.

What's the problem?