• @NickL Thanks :-) Was a bit of a mission getting down there but well worth it. I think its my favourite bike I own.

    According to this article http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest-news/cliff-shrubb-frame-builder-dies-aged-79-125264 "He rented a workshop owned by George Clare, owner of Geoffrey Butler Cycles in Croydon, where he built frames for the local racing fraternity under his own and the Geoffrey Butler labels."

    I don't remember the exact club but, Addiscome rings a bell, I dont know why though.. Ive got a terrible memory. The way he told the stories and his confidence makes me think he must have won a few races and someone in south london must remember him? I still have his number as it goes, will give him a call when I get a chance.

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