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As a reader of both those threads I think they are better off where they are in General; they are of general interest and will get more passing traffic there. I'm afraid that the new, specialised, forum for these types of subjects is going to be a ghetto, tucked away on page 2 and only viewed by people already interested in the subject rather than catching the eye of people who might become interested in it.

From this thread: http://www.lfgss.com/conversations/255351/#comment11878128

The people at Barts running the Bespoke study have suggested this when pointed towards Rider Down:

It would be great if we could work with the forum to include a stickied post in that thread/sidebar for reporting injuries. If anyone could point us in the right direction for this please do.

VB, would you consider doing something like this in a permanent/semi-permanent way that anybody creating an incident report in Rider Down will see at the time of creating their report? May be more useful in the "forum rider down" thread than the general one as it will be self-reporting and thus more accurate.

The Bespoke project will only be as good as its data, and a site like LFGSS has potential to really help that along.

skydancer is simply obsessed with segregating traffic threads.

While you have a point Will. There is an argument to keep related topics in one place so people wishing to research this topic (in this instance discussion about improving the urban environment) can go to one place. Better than utfs and hopping around 'general'they can browse that forum and Get informed.

You pressed to set up a separate cycle training forum. Many of those threads may be of interest and be missed by random browsers.

I'm not sure I would press for a separate cycle training forum now though, for the same reason. At the time everything was on one page and a new forum was noticeable. It achieved it's aim of getting people to know what cycle training is but is now more of an archive and a place for a few people with an active interest than it is a place for the general reader. There's no passing trade. To extent the metaphor, on the new-style LFGSS, these specialist forums are like moving local shops to out of town retail parks. No one just happens to be passing them. Leastways that's what I think. There is some evidence of that too, with the LPC and LHBPA forums being overlooked by polo players.
So I would rather see a thread about, say, 20 mph limits in General where new posts will keep it in view and attract people who didn't realise they had an interest in 'Improving Public Spaces'.

Interesting conundrum thanks to the new forum design. One general forum to rule them all... (and hope something you're interested in appears on page onel)

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This really shouldn't be in rider down.

@Mota786 now really is banned from classifieds.

I had a bug, site-wide bans worked fine but forum specific bans were not always applied when there was a mix of different permissions levels.

Meh, banned from the site.

Can these conversations
http://www.lfgss.com/conversations/25602­8/
http://www.lfgss.com/conversations/23133­8/

Be moved to this forum please
http://www.lfgss.com/microcosms/586/

Agreed on the 20mph conversation, but not on the Mini Holland.

Mostly because the latter is a campaign asking for support and seeks the widest audience to obtain that support and isn't necessaarily pitched as a debate or discussion.

Perhaps in time, when the momentum has been lost, I'll move it... but right now I think it should get as many eyeballs as possible where it is.

From this thread: http://www.lfgss.com/conversations/255351/#comment11878128

The people at Barts running the Bespoke study have suggested this when pointed towards Rider Down:

It would be great if we could work with the forum to include a stickied post in that thread/sidebar for reporting injuries. If anyone could point us in the right direction for this please do.

VB, would you consider doing something like this in a permanent/semi-permanent way that anybody creating an incident report in Rider Down will see at the time of creating their report? May be more useful in the "forum rider down" thread than the general one as it will be self-reporting and thus more accurate.

The Bespoke project will only be as good as its data, and a site like LFGSS has potential to really help that along.

The big problem with that proposal is that we seldom get those involved in the incidents coming forward to share their story. We rely predominantly on third party citations and verifiable reports of road traffic incidents to record incidents within Rider Down.

Given that... how would we manage to get those involved to record their injuries anywhere?

Those involved in near misses never even bother visiting A&E, let alone a forum to record their minor scrape, and those involved in more serious incidents go to A&E first and very few come to any internet forum to share the details.

It's somewhat worrying that the very best source of this information... the hospitals themselves... are not able to record it. But I really don't think that even with the best efforts from LFGSS or other fora that we will be able to get people to record their injuries. Hell, I don't even think people record potholes and that's at the level of single click app nowadays.

I'll sticky something if people really want, but in reality I think the chances of it getting more than a couple of reports is close to non-existant and would make any data submitted act as statistical anomalies that if normalised would harm, rather than help, any eventual case.

Yes, they don't have the data... but they're not going to be able to project that data out of an incomplete and biased sampling either, and if they do they're going to led to conclusions not aligned with reality which could be more damaging than good.

Both banned.

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Yep, agree with all that - that's why I said it'd probably be more useful in the forum rider down thread than in the general forum itself, as forum rider down tends to be self-reporting, not people making reports for other people.

Actually that's exactly what I thought you said.

But the Rider Down forum isn't self-reported, and the thread contained therein has far too small a sample of actual reports (a minority of the forum users use it) to represent any meaningful interpretation of the data.

Both fail, for different reasons.

If there was a way to have all UK cycling fora talk to each other, along with the major cycling publications, to support a large survey... then I'd support it 100%. But a statistically meaningless sample of biased data from a biased group is worse than useless. If any data scientist or statisician argues otherwise, they're basically bad at their job.

Ah, I see.

So are you saying that collideosco.pe itself is bound to fail for the same reasons, though? Surely by its nature it's both biased and self-selecting, given that it's crowd-sourced from the relatively few people who know about it?

@bothwell @Velocio

maybe

then a push to get people to revive that rad thread.

This guy keeps on posting the same ad (maybe he fell asleep on the keyboard):

http://www.lfgss.com/conversations/256657
http://www.lfgss.com/conversations/256655
http://www.lfgss.com/conversations/256654
http://www.lfgss.com/conversations/256652
http://www.lfgss.com/conversations/256651
http://www.lfgss.com/conversations/256650

There's actually code to stop duplicates in two places. The only way around it is to make minor changes and re-submit.

He must have been using "Create Conversation" as a preview, and then using the browser's back button to go back to the "Create Conversation" page and edit things.

http://www.lfgss.com/profiles/89961/

Is there a reason why none of the formatting in my FS thread is showing (not spamming, honest!)

https://www.lfgss.com/conversations/256903/

Not so much fussed about bold etc not working (is down to minimalism script, I think), but even line breaks seem to be entirely MIA?

Formatting looks fine on windows 8 firefox...

#worksonmymachine

@hairnetnic & @bothwell are you seeing line breaks between each of the items?

#maybei'mblind