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I've just purchased this Surly Straggler frameset and I need to build it up. :)

As my only geared bike, I want to make it a good all rounder. It'll be used mainly for a 20mi round commute each day but I hope to do the occasional spot of microadventuring or even a bit of single track (with a few tweaks to the setup).

I'm thinking of the following spec as its main setup - all black, of course:

• Groupset: 105 or Apex (34/50 11-32ish)
  
• Brakes: HY/RD disc
  
• Bars: Salsa Cowbells
  
• Luggage: Soma Porteur front rack
  
• Wheels: H+SON Archetype to Novatec D041SB / D042SB
  
• Tyres: 28c Panaracer Pasala
  
• Mudguards: SKS Longboard 45mm
  
  

I need to find a nice seatpost/stem combo that offers 10mm setback post and 100mm ~8deg stem.

If anyone has any feedback or recommendations for this build then I'm all ears!

Groupset: 105 or Apex (34/50 11-32ish)
Brakes: HY/RD disc

If you can, I would recommend going for the SRAM S700, it's a non-series 10 speed full hydraulic system, they're £400 (shifter and brakes, not including rotor), considering it would set you back over £200 for a pair of HY/RD and £185 for the Apex shifter, it's not too pricey for a full hydraulic.

If you're still set on HY/RD, make sure to have compressionless housing, Jagwire do some for decent monies.

Wheels: H+SON Archetype to Novatec D041SB / D042SB

Archetype have braking surface, you don't need those, one of the main benefit of disc brakes is that you can get a much lighter rims for not a lots of money due to not required extra material for the braking surface, an example is the Pacenti CL25 that weight less than 400g and £40.

Tyres: 28c Panaracer Pasala
Mudguards: SKS Longboard 35mm

You'd need bigger than 35mm, that size is idea for road bicycle with tight clearance, 28mm is the max you can go with 35mm, go for at least 45mm which can handle up to 32mm tyres.

I need to find a nice seatpost/stem combo that offers 10mm setback post and 100mm ~8deg stem.

Any stem and seatpost work fine, if you want to keep it cost effective, Kalloy (or other) seatpost, Evans Cycle's own stem is very smart looking and doesn't take much to removed the tiny FWE logos on the top.

Thanks Ed.

If you can, I would recommend going for the SRAM S700, it's a 10 speed full hydraulic system.

I can't find SRAM S700 in stock online but from the few links I did stumble across it looks a bit too pricey for me. I was looking at spending around £500 max for the aforementioned groupset and brakes (taking into consideration I can sell the rim brakes from the group).

go for at least 45mm which can handle up to 32mm tyres

Will do. Thanks for that.

Archetype have braking surface, you don't need those

I know this, but they look so good. I'd actually like to save a bit of cash on the wheel setup so I'll certainly consider alternatives. I could especially do with saving some weight as the Straggler frameset is a heavy bugger. The Pacenti CL25 you mentioned would save me a little of both and would look nice next to the MTX33s I have on my Brooklyn. So thanks again. I'll have a think.

I can't find SRAM S700 in stock online but from the few links I did stumble across it looks a bit too pricey for me.

Our distributor have them in stock, so they're already out there.

Make sure you order the Shimano non-organic pads for the HY/RD, that's the only major complaint I had with it (a new rotor helped, but the pads should make a better difference).

Our distributor have them in stock, so they're already out there.

Do you know how much the S700 will retail for?

Can't remember exactly, they're sold individually, they're not exactly cheap (much cheaper in 'Murica).

Will double check tomorrow.

Can't remember exactly, they're sold individually, they're not exactly cheap (much cheaper in 'Murica).

Will double check tomorrow.

No dynamo?

No 46/36 cx chainset?

I'd maybe go for dt or bar end shifters to keep costs down and packing easy.

I'll STFU now...

[http://store.rosaricambi.it/cerchio-corsa-per-copertoncino/2546-campagnolo-mexico-68-cerchio.html](http://store.rosaricambi.it/cerchio-corsa-per-copertoncino/2546-campagnolo-mexico-68-cerchio.html)

I considered bar end shifters for the purpose of (light) touring but for day to day use I really want STIs.

I also can't see me needing CX gearing.. A compact road chainset with a wider ~32t cassette seems to me like a good choice for all round usage.

That route ironically enough, is the cheapest way to go full hydraulic and 11 speed on a budget.

105 5800 drivetrain*, Dura Ace bar-end shifter (£65-80), and TRP Hylex £200-230).

*doesn't required 11 speed front derailleur, or chainset, any 9/10 speed one will do (even my Claris work despite taking a little longer to shift up).

@Dom, do you want 8deg for aesthetics? unless the stem is slammed, 6deg and 5mm less spacer gives the same drop/ reach. lot more options at 6deg.

Lovely weather mate:

@Dom @edscoble Quite worrying when the first search result for the S700 groupset is about the total recall/stop use immediately ruling from the end of last year. I'd still be quite suspicious about SRAM hydraulics.

trying on my new pepper handlebars i got from Jordon, they are replacing the saber bullhorns. Now wondering which is better foam grips or hard rubber grips.

Hard rubber

foam are great till the point it rains

Stripped my cross-bike and installed the new cranks, waiting for the rest of the stuff. Should be done within a week. :)

http://www.lfgss.com/conversations/256510/

Was a good price that

Is this ok?
Like, acording to the internet, bars weight around 270gr so 150gr of tape?

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They're Deda bars which will have been weighed on Italian scales so if your source(s) for the bar weight show them on scales then I'd take the weights with a pinch of salt .. saying that it's hard to tell what and how much tape is on there. Lizard Skins DSP is around 60g for the set whereas Brooks is around 112g for the set