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  • Why is Shimano 105 11 speed so plasticy looking?

    Because it is. Feels it too.

  • So sumo, did you buy a complete bike with 105 or did you buy the group?

    I'm partway through installing an Apex groupset on a bike.T he hoods and levers certainly feel the same as my old Rival stuff. Looks OK too. And does not feel plasticky... I did have a quick spin on a bike with apex and shifting and feel was perfect.

    All of what you describe is exactly why I didn't choose the shimano stuff.

  • So sumo, did you buy a complete bike with 105 or did you buy the group?

    It came on the bike. I wouldn't have chosen Shimano otherwise. Although I hadn't used one of the modern groupsets for any more than 5 minutes that at least I have the knowledge now.

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