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I found there's a "magic reach number" in my case
492mm for me .. thanks for asking
Also @Dom one of the first revelations at/after bike fit are how close I was to the handlebars and how it made things worse. On a same frame I went from inline and 90mm stem to 25mm layback and 120mm stem which resulted in more comfort. Reach is secondary though; first thing needs to be sorted is your leg/hip position to pedals.
amey-
That's good to hear, thanks man. I'll go with their recommendations. :)
I've been riding 54cm square with an 80-90mm stem across all my setups over the past couple of years (regardless of bar setup - drops, bullhorns, drops, hoods, etc). After the fit I've been recommended a frame with a 56.5cm ETT, a 100mm stem and a 10mm layback post.
I'm looking forward to getting it built up and seeing how much of a difference it makes.
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Totally agree. I need enough setback or my lower back start to complain. You can't really sit down on full weight if setback isn't right and you hands will end up compensating, or in my case lower back.
I find it interesting how frame geometry can lead to the same reach with totally different positions.
The reach is the same on the slack angled tourer I have with saddle/bars parallel and the gazelle track with bars nearly 3 inches below the saddle, perhaps there's a "how low can go you go" rule with steeper seat tubes, as I don't see this work on the tourer.
So we have 57 (I think it's 54 actually) for 1.65m and 492 for... xxxm. Probably there's some tables for that sort of thing too, though they're not that meaningful if you deviate from the average ;)
Dom
JWestland
Is it a case of just a longer stem? That's easily enough sorted?
I found there's a "magic reach number" in my case...something bike fitting sites can't give as they don't take headtubes into account. Whatever bike I am comfortable on it seems to be 57 cm from the tip of the saddle to the handlebar position.
Which on the 9 cm HT Gazelle Track is saddle setback just 4 cm, low position, 53 cc T and 8 cm stem on short reach Deda and on the Thorn XTC is a 5 cm setback, 55.5 cm TT, 6 cm stem, parallel bars with saddle, and medium reach 3ttt morpheus.
Now if only that magic number was easy to find just looking at a bike...reach/stack perhaps...