Yes - you're right, they are.
But it's completely irrelevant for most people, the fact that the lens is plastic and the sensor is tiny - it does not matter anymore if it's just for screens or anything but big prints.
Daily papers have published stuff I shot with an iPhone 4 years ago, it looked nice.
You have more that enough pixels now, and even image stabilization now and 5-digit ISOs.
Can we agree that it's about the image one views in the end?
Modern smartphones can deliver astounding quality, and there's no point whining about that there's software involved.. in all digital cameras, even the pro-ones, is software involved if you shoot JPG, that "improves" the image.
This may not be as "honest" as really capturing all the beautiful rays of light with a Zeiss lens, but fuck it, it really is about the image people are going to see in the end, and nothing else - only jealous idiots look at an image and say "ah the shot is great but it's not cool because his camera used software / he used photoshop / etc. etc.".
But yet, not irrelevant at all to the people who contribute posts to those threads. To some who have the mastering of an SLR (digital or not) as a hobby, it's extremely relevant. Who are you to say it's not?
Yes - you're right, they are.
But it's completely irrelevant for most people, the fact that the lens is plastic and the sensor is tiny - it does not matter anymore if it's just for screens or anything but big prints.
Daily papers have published stuff I shot with an iPhone 4 years ago, it looked nice.
You have more that enough pixels now, and even image stabilization now and 5-digit ISOs.
Can we agree that it's about the image one views in the end?
Modern smartphones can deliver astounding quality, and there's no point whining about that there's software involved.. in all digital cameras, even the pro-ones, is software involved if you shoot JPG, that "improves" the image.
This may not be as "honest" as really capturing all the beautiful rays of light with a Zeiss lens, but fuck it, it really is about the image people are going to see in the end, and nothing else - only jealous idiots look at an image and say "ah the shot is great but it's not cool because his camera used software / he used photoshop / etc. etc.".