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but you can't separate out the promises and lies that were used to get people to vote that way
Not that I particularly disagree with you, but there were a lot of promises made by the Yes side that were far from fleshed out either?
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I don't think anyone has said No voters didn't make an independent decision, but you can't separate out the promises and lies that were used to get people to vote that way
I don't think anyone has said Yes voters didn't make an independent decision, but you can't separate out the promises and lies that were used to get people to vote that way
i.e., what @branwen said. In a choice between uncertain outcomes, it's the duty of Yes to say what the best possible outcome could be, however incredible their claims, as it is the duty of No to point out the worst case scenario. What the No side had going for them in terms of credibility was that they were also the elected representatives of 90% of the UK population and would therefore be making the final decision about the terms of the secession.
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Again, look at the stats-it's only the over 65's that blackballed it, and without the offer of Devo Max-which looks like it's being reneged on-it would have been more conclusive.
I don't think anyone has said No voters didn't make an independent decision, but you can't separate out the promises and lies that were used to get people to vote that way; I know several people who were canvassing for yes and went to door after door to be told by an incredulous pensioner that they'd already voted No by post because they thought their pension would be stopped, so it's not baseless deflections or accusations.