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(where a victory has happened with no contribution from assholes like you)
Where's the victory? The stats show that a huge majority (73%) of pensioners, most of whom had voted by post already and had been under the impression their pensions were at risk, delivered the vote for the three stooges, and the last minute begging and promises of devo max dented the clear advantage of Yes in the other age groups, although they would have still been enough to deliver Independence.
A bit of an indictment as to how democracy functions in this country really.
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an indictment as to how democracy functions in this country
You had plenty of confidence in democracy before you lost.
Even if you had a point (and there are sensible points to be made about electoral reform, for example, in which I have taken an interest for about 30 years), it would be better to give it a rest for now since anything you say at the moment sounds like sour grapes.
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IMO the 65+ are more entitle to the a vote than the 16-17 year olds as they for a kick off haven't contributed anything to society yet(Money wise) unlike the 65+ who will have paid tax all throughout theres.
Plus the 16-17 years aren't allowed to vote normally and won't be on the next general election, so it was Alex Salmond twisting it with the hope that it would pay off and that table above I'd love to the see the numbers of people actually asked on each age cat.
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A bit of an indictment as to how democracy functions in this country really.
Why is that an indictment of democracy in this country? There was 97% voter registration and 84% turnout, and it's widely agreed that the debate engaged a nation.
I've experienced a lot of 'blame everyone but the Scottish electorate' from yes voters recently. Oh it was a no because this, because that, because Westminster, because old people voted no, because Labour, because the other. I'm getting the same from your posts to be honest.
I wouldn't go as far as to call it sour grapes, but a lot of people do seem to be having trouble accepting that Scotland could have decided to leave the union, but 55.3% of those who turned out to vote decided they didn't want to, so here we are (in a situation that isn't great for anyone, frankly).
4,283,392 people could have voted yes, in the end only 1,617,989 did. The people have spoken.
Given that, why on earth would you talk about forcing another referendum?
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Just shut up. For everybody's benefit, shut up. The gap between the actual benefit of your posts on this subject and the real value is immense. I speak as somebody with both Scottish and English parents, and also as a pedant who hugely values intellecual rigour. Please just shut up, you tiresome, fatigueless, shameless, prideless ocd obsessive. Your pathetic, spiteful arguements are causing problems not only in the short term (where a victory has happened with no contribution from assholes like you) to the longer term where reconciliation requires insight of which you are clearly incapable.