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  • That's a good point. Factoring in anodising, is that not just going to push the price up to a point where it's worth getting a better rim that's all black already?

    As you're here, tester; is there any aero advantage to a kinlin Tb 25 over a reflex?

    Are there any good value solid black tub rims out there? Am I right in thinking aero>rotational weight for general track use?

  • is there any aero advantage to a kinlin Tb 25 over a reflex?

    Very little, if any.

    Are there any good value solid black tub rims out there?

    Are there any metal tub rims out there at all? Not really. In the olden days, we had dozens of choices readily available (Mavic, Wolber, Super Champion, Nisi, Ambrosio, Araya, Campagnolo all had numerous different models), now you can count them on the fingers of one hand.

    Am I right in thinking aero > rotational weight for general track use?

    To be honest, for general track use cheap beats out all other factors. Any rim will be strong enough in 32h, none of the metal ones will be much different from an aerodynamic point of view, and they all weigh the same for practical purposes, from Ambrosio Crono F20 at ~360g to Kinlin at ~430g is not going to make any difference.

    If you actually want faster wheels, the cheapest change to your current spec would be to get 24h rims and hubs.

  • Is 24h gonna be alright for me at 13 stone? Would be track use only.

  • Are there any metal tub rims out there at all?

    There are still some super classy NOS campag Omega box section and V.

  • re there any metal tub rims out there at all? Not really. In the olden days, we had dozens of choices readily available (Mavic, Wolber, Super Champion, Nisi, Ambrosio, Araya, Campagnolo all had numerous different models), now you can count them on the fingers of one hand.

    Not really. Many of the tubular rims of yore are still relatively easy to source NOS. The carbon craze has not only revigorated the supply of tubular tyres but also liberated many wonderful alloy rims from their stashes as their owners abandon 32 and 36 spoke holes and alu for the lure of carbon acustics. Carbon has even helped to rereanimate wooden rims. The supply of good alu rims is so large that, pending a big market swing draining the market, the future continues to shine for them. That all said.. there are a number of rims still being made that are really good.. For a robust rim the Amborsio Nemesis, for example, can't be beat--- . the Crono/F20 is also as good a 350g class rim as were made. And Sub-300g rims? Old Weltmeisters, Egals, Argent 7s, and ... I'll have to admit "carbon can do it better" when the goal is...

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