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TV those are the very same arguments I have used with people - a lot of people up here I know accept all of that, but they still intend voting Yes. It is very much a feeling of a movement up here - just yesterday in Aberdeen there was a big rally of approx 1000 Yes campaigners, people in cars festooned with flags and banners, loads or noise. I counted a few very small pockets of Better Together campaigners who really looked like were trying to sell bibles at a heavy metal concert. For the very first time I am seriously having to consider that it may well be a Yes vote and what that means. September 19th people will still get up eat toast drink coffee go to work etc etc - the golden dawn will feel very ordinary I would say.
It doesn't matter if you tell them about the poor areas in England - about Beaumont Leys estate or places in Birmingham or Coventry that make places like Motherwell look positively charming - or horrible estates in London - they do not care, that is England's problem. I don't feel it is an anti-English thing, but it is very much an anti Westminster 'Elite' thing (which does offend me actually, the idea that there aren't actually hard working decent MP's and they are ALL on the take - that's BS)
It almost doesn't matter what argument you use there are a hell of a lot of people intending to vote Yes because literally 'ANYTHING is better than these cnuts'