Can you help to identify these frames, bikes or parts?

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conquistador in reply to @Rik_Van_Looy

I agree, not a Gillott but hoping the sleeved bridge would narrow it down. Another distinctive feature is the seat stay, unlike most other as it is not a wrap around, fast back or flat cap

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Rik_Van_Looy in reply to @conquistador

Indeed - very long and slender - this frame shouldn't be too hard to id. do you have a frame number and if so, where on the frame is it?

for me, gut feel is still freddy grubb.
here's one from a quick google image search -
similar bridge and stays.

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conquistador in reply to @Rik_Van_Looy

35308 on bottom bracket shell underside, parallel to the spindle

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