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  • Oh. Basically, the Happy Days investment has been liquidated and there are a lot of questions being asked that neither the Happy Days or Seedrs guys are able to answer due to what appears to be a lack of knowledge. Some of the issues highlight a scary lack of understanding on what happens after the investment has been attained.

    Michael Edwards, 26 minutes ago Not even enough money left to prepare
    final accounts to show how the money was spent. Suspicious. Add answer
    Dave Edwards, 7 days ago Any update on the Final Accounts - it's six
    weeks on now.

    Thanks, Dave SEEDRS STAFFThomas Davies, 7 days ago We will be posting
    an update shortly.

    Thomas Davies Chief Investment Officer Add answer Mark Andrewes,
    about 1 month ago Hi, I waw under the impression that the investors
    held shares in Sunday Monday Ltd, which apparently is not correct from
    the answer below, even though that has been described as the
    investment vehicle. Please can someone post a link to the investment
    agreement. I am trying to work out how to claim tax relief for the
    loss. SEEDRS STAFFThomas Davies, about 1 month ago Hi Mark

    This was not an EIS or SEIS eligible round and therefore you will not
    be able to claim loss relief on this investment.

    Thomas Davies Chief Investment Officer Mark Andrewes, about 1 month
    ago That is not the question I asked. Ordinarily a loss on unquoted
    shares qualifies for income tax relief, irrespective of EIS/SEIS
    relief. If the investment is in the form of a trading relationship
    rather than shares, then the loss could qualify for income tax relief
    as a trading loss. Therefore I would like still to see the investment
    agreement. SEEDRS STAFFThomas Davies, about 1 month ago Hi Mark

    I am not a tax expert and any tax advice should come from a
    professional tax advisor. I believe that "loss relief" will not be
    able to be claimed as it was a contractual right to profits and not
    shares in the company. There may however be an allowable loss for CGT
    purposes, but again this would need to be checked with a tax
    professional as I know this area of tax can be a little complicated. I
    attach the investment agreement that was used for this campaign for
    your reference.

    Thomas Davies Chief Investment Officer
    Seedrs_Subscription_Agreement_SIGNED.pdf Mark Andrewes, about 1 month
    ago Hi, thanks for posting the investment agreement. Is it possible to
    talk directly to someone at Collins and Co about the production
    accounts (or else can we have the conference call that someone else
    requested further down the page)? Speaking as a full time tax
    adviser, I still believe a trading loss could potentially be claimed
    by investors - the agreement appears to be an unincorporated
    contractual joint venture in which each investor receives either a
    share of profits or, as is unfortunately the case, a share of losses
    up to the amount of our subscription, and therefore individuals are
    carrying on a trade in a non-active capacity - but the presentation in
    the financial statements is likely to be informative. SEEDRS
    STAFFThomas Davies, about 1 month ago Hi Mark

    I believe that the accountants are still in the process of finalising
    the accounts. I suggest that once these have been finalised, we will
    liaise with Amy and the accountants to confirm what the position is.

    Thomas Davies Chief Investment Officer Add answer Caerwyn Williams,
    about 1 month ago Hi - echoing Gillian's point, i don't remember
    receiving a confirmation that this was profit sharing venture - did
    you send something to investors by email at all ? thanks SEEDRS
    STAFFJeff Lynn, about 1 month ago Hi Caerwyn,

    The structure of the investment was set out in the campaign text,
    under Monetisation Strategy/Investor Returns.

    Kind regards, Jeff Add answer Caerwyn Williams, about 1 month ago Do
    we get a return of the capital, or at least some of it ?! TEAM
    MEMBERAmy Anzel, about 1 month ago Hi Caerwyn,

    As I mentioned in the Final Investor Update which was posted to this
    site, the show did not make back any of its investment. Thus, there
    unfortunately will not be a return of capital.

    Best, Amy Add answer Gillian Steedman, about 1 month ago Thanks for
    the updates. Disappointing news. However, I don't remember ever
    receiving a share certificate. Can you send one, please, for my
    records, even if the shares are now worthless? SEEDRS STAFFThomas
    Davies, about 1 month ago Hi Gillian

    There was no share certificate issued for this campaign as this was a
    contractual profit sharing campaign rather than shares in a company.

    Thomas Davies Chief Investment Officer Add answer Nick Laurie, about
    1 month ago Well done Amy for putting so much into it. I too, though,
    would reiterate Daniel and Franz's question regarding more accurate
    figures and return of capital. Best wishes Nick Laurie TEAM
    MEMBERAmy Anzel, about 1 month ago Hi Nick,

    Thanks for your message. I have given weekly figures for all the
    running weeks in each monthly newsletter, which are on this site. I
    also summed up the financials of the tour in the Final Investor Update
    which was posted to this site as well after the tour finished.

    Final accounts are currently being done and will be circulated
    shortly.

    Sadly as I mentioned in the Final Investor Update, there will be no
    return of capital as the show did not make back any of its investment.

    Best, Amy Add answer Franz Opitz, about 1 month ago Hello Amy, Sorry
    to hear that the production was not successful. Could you please
    address the following questions. 1) When can we expect audited
    accounts? 2) Do you have preliminary performance figures such as
    number of shows run, percent tickets sold and what was break even. 3)
    What are your debtors and creditors amount to and cash in the bank,
    bearing in mind that trading insolvent is unlawful. 4) Seedr
    mentioned in a message to investors that there will be no return on
    investment, which is obvious. Are you planning any return of capital
    to investors?

    Thanks, Franz SEEDRS STAFFJeff Lynn, about 1 month ago Franz - just to
    note that some of your questions are answered in the most recent
    update Amy provided under the Updates tab. Zachary Hickman, about 1
    month ago Hi, I think we need to see something more substantial than
    an informal report detailing approximate numbers. Thank you TEAM
    MEMBERAmy Anzel, about 1 month ago Hi Zachary,

    As I said below, final accounts are being prepared.

    Best, Amy Add answer Tarquin Wethered, about 1 month ago Who are
    Sunday Monday Limited? Daniel Plunkett, about 1 month ago I assume
    they are the holding company for the production -
    https://www.duedil.com/company/08350034/sunday-...

    Amy - thanks for the updates over the last 6m, much appreciated. Will
    a final set of audited accounts for the production be made available
    for investors? SEEDRS STAFFThomas Davies, about 1 month ago Yes Sunday
    Monday Limited was the investment vehicle.

    Thomas Davies Chief Investment Officer

  • Ah, that one was run in a Kickstarter style with a promise of "If we make money you'll see some share of it" and lacks the guarantees of an SEIS or EIS investment.

    Messy.

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