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  • When browsing the forum without logging in is there a way to change the settings so that when you click on a thread/conversation/whatever they're
    called these days, it goes to the last page of a thread and not the 1st...every single time?

    I mostly browse without logging in and use the 'today' button (how does this differ from the conversations button on the right hand side by the way?)
    and having to click from 1st page to last page, and back then back again
    back to the main topic list, is like, errr, really harshing my buzz man, and making me wander away from the forum much quicker than I would in the olden days
    #firstworldrproblems
    #sorryifthishasbeenaskedalreadyinthemyriadofthreadsaboutthenewplatformwhichicantkeepupwith

  • When browsing the forum without logging in is there a way to change the settings so that when you click on a thread/conversation/whatever they're
    called these days, it goes to the last page of a thread and not the 1st...every single time?

    The problem is... most people who are not signed in (overwhelming majority) have arrived from Google after researching something.

    They don't know what a conversation is about, the context, etc.

    So those users want to be on page 1, able to see what it is about, reading event details, etc.

    And without signing in, we have no way to tell the difference between that majority of users who are truly guests and have arrived with only minimal context and who do not come here often... and you.

    Certainly a fair number of people who do have accounts browse without them... but we can't tell you apart from those who don't have accounts.

    Hmm... maybe we could consider placing cookies on stuff. If you browse a lot without signing in, then we wouldn't remember everything. And we also wouldn't remember what you're read up to if you access on different devices. If the cookie space got full we'd have to purge older things... so we could try and hack something in but it would be wildly inconsistent, single device only, and would only remember a few items.

    Or... you could sign in.

    And Today differs from just clicking Conversations as it includes Events, new profiles, any messages you've received, etc.

  • Having to sign in when I have nothing to say sounds a bit pointless. And logging in does'nt make it seemless either. As I just logged in I've just done a few visits to regularly visited threads and though it did'nt take me to the first page, it took me pages that I'd since read well past whilst browsing without being logged in, so thats not really been a solution either. So for members it seems you are best off browsing while being logged in or not at all, which seems a bit meh.

    I may be old school but I don't like being kept signed into things for long periods, why should I be? Is there a reason other than to show us as visiting traffic?

    I'd say a large numbers of threads like 'in the news', 'football' and many others would be pointless going to page 1, in fact most threads with lots of pages. Any new visitors to the site can get the context as it relates to here and now, not context 7-8 years ago when Man Utd were good and Scoble ran 12 inches of spacers on every bike. If they want to go
    further to see how deep the rabbit warren really goes (yes the matrix was on the tellybox again yesterday) they can click to the 1st page and trawl away. Even if we had the 1st page/last page option to go to on the list of threads,like we did on the old forum, that would improve the user experience, no?

    I think I'm just an old bastard who shuns a lot of the new features, I don't really need or want to have notifications of replies to anything I've said, if I want to go back I can. I don't have a desire to be followed or to follow. Even seeing the old 'trending' button gave me have a bit of a funny turn. The new quotes thing its lots easier though so hurrah for that.

    And yes I along with lots of others do browse from various devices from various locations so I can't see the cookie thing working consistently either.

    Anyway sorry that sounds like me whining away, you're obviously very busy trying tweaking it all, just my 2p worth. Congratulations on the work done so far, and on the wedding news.

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