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@tommmmmmm hah, weirdly enough my Gustin Slates arrived today. They look pretty good.
@apone I tried sneaking into the 33 waist to get the shorter length. Figured it would be ok... hell no, they were so tight I gave them to my brother. Also, I've noticed the length is not uniform, I've had length ranging from 36->38" on the various pairs. I'm a 33, so normally get them to 35" for a bit of stack/cuff