Road bike recommendations

I definitely need a cipollini.

They come "Sonny Approved"

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I don't need the hole in my wallet that a Ciponllini would make.

Besides, doesn't he personally make love to every frame they build?

Factory lube.

He probably has enough testosterone to manage it

The Cipollinis are definitely over priced. I saw a fluoro one in a Trondheim bike store. I have admittedly terrible taste. But I was blown away by how amazing it looked.

The 2015 Aeroroad with 6870 in XS looks spot on. I'd need to sell on the wheels, crankset, saddle, my 2010 SR gearset, my brakes, and my BMC SLX01 frameset.

.....so much hassle.....Such a nice bike. Bah.

http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/t1000-carbon-bikes-cipollini-frame-2013_744444847.html

I wonder what you actually receive? A Cipollini shaped object, or just no reply to your emails?

This is the supplier's site:
http://cyclingyong.en.alibaba.com/

lol.

Is there something like this Orbea Avant but metal and cheaper?
http://road.cc/content/review/118552-orbea-avant-road-bike

28s+, mudguards, Di2, hydraulic discs

"heavy wheels and high overall weight blunt its speed and climbing ability" LOL 8.5kg
blame the tools why don't ya?!

http://www.bikeradar.com/road/gear/category/bikes/road/product/review-trek-domane-disc-6-9-14-48549/

Carbon though and £6000

Boardman CXR 9.4 Di2 w/ Shimano hydro
http://www.hatfieldcycles.com/p/24/Boardman-Elite-CXR-94-Di2

Getting cheaper but carbon frame still. I presume being a 'cross bike it should take some pretty fat tyres?

Or could just buy get a CXR 9.8 frameset for £1300
http://www.hatfieldcycles.com/p/25/Boardman-Elite-CXR-98-Frameset

Simplon Inissio mit Gepäckträger

3399 Euro

die Features:
• Komfort-Geometrie: längere Gabel gleicht kürzeres Steuerrohr ab, für sportlichere Optik
• Rahmen: "Hot Melt Nano Carbon", Triple Fusion Technology
• „Flat Mount“: neuer Shimano-Brems-Standard für Rennrad-Scheibenbremsen (ab 2016), 160 mm Disc vorne, 140 mm hinten
• „RTA-15“: steife Vorderrad-Steckachse 15 x 100 mm
• „T-Axle“: steife Hinterrad-Steckachse 12 x 142 mm
• „ICR“: innenverlegte Züge
• "Tapered"-Steuerrohr für hohe Steifigkeit: 1 1/4“ - 1 1/8“
• „I-Cone“: integrierter Lager-Konus in der Gabelkrone
• „Hollow Carbon Dropouts“: hohle Ausfallenden für geringes Gewicht und hohe Steifigkeit
• „Comfort Concept“: Zusammenspiel aus flexender "Vibrex"-Sitzstrebe und Sattelstütze, sowie Sitz- und Oberrohr - sorgt für eine ausgewogene Dämpfung in vertikaler Richtung
• „Power Transfer“: Tretlager und Kettenstrebe werden aus einer Einheit gefertigt, um höchste Steifigkeit im Antritt zu generieren.
• Reifen bis 33 mm Breite
• Aufnahmen für Schutzbleche und Gepäckträger, formschön im Rahmen integriert
• mechanische oder elektronische Schaltung (Shimano) möglich

Here's a question...

My winter bike has always been my turbo bike. Will I be able to use my special turbo skewer on a bolt-thru axle?

Hippy - all those option would be more expensive than getting the Rose and buying shifters and mechs to upgrade to Di2.

Do you really need bigger tyres than 25s?

Edit: or buying the Di2 equipped Rose.

No.

What about the new Genesis?

Is there something like this Orbea Avant but metal and cheaper?
road.cc/content/review/118552-orb­ea-avant-road-bike

28s+, mudguards, Di2, hydraulic discs

"heavy wheels and high overall weight blunt its speed and climbing ability" LOL 8.5kg
blame the tools why don't ya?!

Sounds like you are describing a cross bike

Still carbon and a bit costly for a commuter.

It's no use, put 650b wheels on it to give you moar clearance.

Good question! Didn't think about that at all.

Also, what happens when you get used to discs and all your race bikes are rim brakes? That would suck a bit.

How much is the Rose frameset?

I run 28s at the moment and still swear at potholes and shit smashing me so I was considering going bigger. Extra resistance training too.

I could run more supple 25s but then I lose the durability and punc resistance.

Link?

Well most of these are either cross or 'endurance/sportive' bikes. Geo would still have to work for me.

http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-us/bikes/model/tcx.slr.1/14817/66284/

andyp suggested a Giant cross bike. Another frameset option?

Thru axle only on front wheel like it seems the giant has.