Concept Bikes & Bike Innovation - for better or worse

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gbj_tester in reply to @hippy

brakes that work

A spoon brake on an Ordinary already works too well, resulting in an endo. The same goes for the twin discs on that mostrosity, albeit without the face-destroying descent from 6' up.

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hippy in reply to @gbj_tester

So like I said brakes that work, is slow you down, not insert your face into the road.

Weight might be back enough on that new thing to not endo.

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gbj_tester in reply to @hippy

You can endo on a Safety of conventional geometry with normal rim brakes, that thing will start tipping at about half the rate of acceleration you can achieve on a normal bike. It might still be twice the rate achievable on an Ordinary, which is why we all ride Safeties now.

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