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  • Sorry this has happened again Ho, it sucks. You've had the patience of a saint so far but I'd definitely start being less patient now. It's been said before but this thread is a pretty terrible advert for Canyon. If you have any problems getting a refund throw the Sale of Goods Act at them: none of these frames have been fit for purpose.

    The BMC gets my vote. Being a high end carbon frame I presume it's made in their facility in Switzerland, in which case I'd be pretty confident of the quality.

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