Epic fail

Failure by the instructor, obviously. Many people would say also parenting fail. Terrible psychological impact on the wee girl his/their fault, not hers.

Victim Blaming >>>

It finishes before the fatal shooting.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/aug/27/zara-removes-striped-pyjamas-with-yellow-star-following-online-outrage

video doesn't show anything, apparently there are screams: http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/08/27/firing-range-instructor-hands-9-year-old-an-uzi-now-hes-dead/?tid=hp_mm

i don't know how to interpret how i feel about this.
unexpectedly i don't feel like there is a lesson here, when there must be.

as you say, poor, poor young girl.

He has her shoot 1 round on single then flicks it onto full auto without warning her of huge recoil or even considering a 9yo can't control it.

recoil + child wrist = bullets everywhere

Given how many safely shoot in america for hobby/sport it's unavoidable someone will get hit at a range now and then.

it's always avoidable.

Back and to the left.
Back and to the left.

unexpectedly i don't feel like there is a lesson here, when there must be.

Don't give fully automatic weapons to a 9 year old girl?

Don't give fully automatic weapons to a 9 year old?

better.

Just seen this take on the ice bucket situation:

"This is not intending to offend anyone, but I am not tipping a bucket of ice over my head in order that myself and someone else may donate £3. Instead I would prefer to donate a more significant sum silently to a charity that is closer to me. Sorry to disappoint the people that nominated me, x"

If you can't see the irony in that statement my dear then there is truly no hope for you.

If you think that shaming people into making charitable donations is a positive thing there's no hope for you.

Don't weapon.

Bestest.

How about shaming people OUT of making charitable donations because it's lame or makes them look naive? Is that a positive thing?

Been uhming and ahing about this all week, but in the end, positive action is positive action. There are bigger things to feel hopeless over.

ulp

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sxZ4tsp8gc

Chris Morris way ahead of the game again.

So good.

Just so, so good.

Don't get me wrong - I am in no way an advocate of this whole thing - nothing in my post suggests I am! I just thought it was rather amusing that someone would look down on people publicly giving to charity then publicly stating they give to charity!

I just thought it was rather amusing that someone would look down on people publicly giving to charity then publicly stating they give to charity!

I dunno, for me its partly the whole £3 thing that everyone seems to be doing. Especially when some people that I know that have done it spent more than that buying bags of ice from the supermarket. It seems - to me - to be very "look at me, I gave to charity, I'm saving the world" and I don't see a one off £3 donation as so horrendously noble that it needs shouting about on the internet.

I get the whole getting more people to do it thing but I don't see 'charity coz its fashionable' as a positive thing. I also know people who donate silently and whose donations equate to quite a lot of people donating £3 publicly and who do so on a monthly basis, not a one off coz it's fashionable basis.

internet mass hysteria is always a bit fucking creepy.

and surely it's the people who are being challenged but choosing not to pour a bucket of fucking ice over themselves in fit of narcissistic, self-felating attention-whoring, thereby consenting to donating the full-whack, who are far more worthy of praise?

the whole thing can fuck off. give to charity or don't. it's no ones fucking business but yours.

I think that attitude is a little problematic.

I agree it's weird. I agree that its narcissistic, and possibly quite naive as I bet many of the people flooding my fb feed haven't even looked at what the ALS actually do (research ennit? For like, leprosy or something? durrgh).

But I don't see the point in shaming someone for openly enjoying something that actually results in a donation. Yes there are better ways, but they chose that way. For whatever reason. If the opportunity had not arisen, they may be the type of people who may never have donated. I'd rather have them doing something than nothing, right?

What I dreaded happened; got nominated. I'm probably going to do it. The only reason I can think of for not doing it is that i'd be embarrassed since it could make me look vain and naive. Not to do it would probably be even more vain though.. no?

And if I do it, I know the people I 'challenge' would be people that wouldn't bother to donate otherwise.

yayyy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uvkqr-S-1Ac

I got nominated. I'm probably going to do it. The only reason I can think of for not doing it is that i'd be embarrassed since it could make me look vain and naive. Not to do it would probably be even more vain though.. no?

if your friends are the kind of people that would give you a hard time because you chose to rather not indulge in this sort of self-agrandising nonsense in favour of a quiet, dignified non-broadcasted donation, perhaps it's time to update your christams card list.

and surely it's the people who are being challenged but choosing not to pour a bucket of fucking ice over themselves in fit of narcissistic, self-felating attention-whoring, thereby consenting to donating the full-whack, who are far more worthy of praise?

I maybe don't understand the entire thing properly.

I thought you donated, however much you saw fit, and did the ice water thing to 'prove' you'd donated.

What you've said, along with some stuff I gleaned from a few of the videos I've watched suggests you do the ice water instead of donating or in lieu of a larger donation?

It's sad for the family of the dude that got shot, the girl who shot him, and her family. It doesn't say anything for or against gun control in the same way that a tragic hang gliding accident doesn't say anything for or against hang gliding legislation.

The absolute best.

^^ from what i understand, if you opt out, you are obliged to donate more. I could be wrong.

I bet many of the people flooding my fb feed haven't even looked at what the ALS actually do (research ennit? For like, leprosy or something? durrgh).

Research indeed, involving, as I understand it, some pretty grim animal testing. Another reason I'm not going to be chucking ice water over my head anytime soon.

i read most of the money goes to providing palliative care. and of course the charity execs. again, i am happy to be corrected re this. i am also not suggesting that people refrain from making charitable contributions. just do your homework before you do - you never know, you might find a charity that you deem more worthy of your hard earned dorrah.

http://www.wateraid.org/uk

They wouldn't give me a hard time. Dignification or whatever isn't as important to me as being able to encourage someone to donate money.

Wasn't aware there were any rules other than if you did it, you could nominate someone else. Donations are discretionary no? Bit crass otherwise.