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Thanks for the 'productive' R&D guys, the head says go with steel so it will save me the heartache of the 'cracking' scenario again, but my heart wants carbon for the short term fun.
From all the ones above actually liking the BMC but the TR01 instead the 02 but I heard from people at evans cycles that apparently there are some structural issues with the seat and chain stay...hmmm