Road bike recommendations

Don't know, all I know is that we have four CAAD10s for the UK market now (105, Disc, Ultegra, and Racing Edition), but no frameset.

CAAD10 Ultegra now come with Hollowgram crankset as standard instead of FSA, and Fizik over Prologo.

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I wish Specialized would stop putting that fucking crank on their bikes. It's awful.

It weighs nothing, is modular, freakin stiff and is extremely easy to service. If only they could make it pretty, too. It's licensed from Lightening.

agreed ^

£1800 to spend on a road bike, recommendations?

One that fits. With a groupset you like the feel of.

In a colour you like.

Or the default answer; Canyon/Rose

http://www.rosebikes.co.uk/bike/rose-xeon-rs-4400-2014/aid:669786

then swap wheels to some porn ck's laced to sl23's or something

Have you already got a road bike?

Nope, this is the first proper road bike i've had, track bike was the previous bike

With those wheels tyres will rub brake bridge

This on the other hand .. http://www.rosebikes.co.uk/bike/rose-pro-sl-3000-2014/aid:668381

Why not carbon like this?
http://www.rosebikes.co.uk/bike/rose-xeon-crs-3000-2014/aid:674118#3H-us1U-us1V-us1W-us1X-us1Y-us1Z-us99-us1b-us1c-us1d-us1e-us89-us5A-us9V-us1i-us1j-us1k-us1l-us1m-us1n-us1o-x4ef-x4eg
Although the carbon grade looks quite low, maybe a giant would be a better choice.

Really? how?

A design error

tyre, rim, brake or bike? if it's the rim - sl23 I doubt that it would cause brake rub, if brake i have 25c in force 22 brakes and have ample clearance

brake bridge is too low on seat stays

One that fits. With a groupset you like the feel of.

In a colour you like.

^ this. And a warranty on the frameset and maybe a crash replacement scheme if you're into that kind of thing.

You should qualify that. You've seen one frame?

Yes @jammy 's

25's go just about

Leaving zero chance for a mudguard like raceblade long

Canyon do that too. Why Germans? Why?

Rose do offer their bikes with 25s.

The clearance photographed is entirely normal for a road bike.

Why Germans? Why?

Because they have very good roads. The bikes for that market are usually more stiff than average.

Although Roadlite AL will take raceblade long .. the only irritating bit is the front part of front guard which keeps flapping about. In the smallest size of the frame though mudguards come dangerously close to the (external) cables which wont be an issue with Endurace AL and I am hoping it has a little more clearance too.

Your a design error.

Stop dressing up misinformation.