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Ver complex situation covered by a wank thread.
No real mention of the regional players who loaded up after vacuum left by US. Turk, Qat, Saud, Kuwaiti billionaires. Iran, Iraq, Russia. The evolution of this involvement is why we are where we are today.
Disintegration of state power in swathes of Iraq and Syria key to all this.
Only so many of those fighting in Northern Iraq are die hard IS. There is essentially a Sunni uprising going on and IS just happens to be far better at twitter than the ex-Baathist officers. I'm not against it per se but bombing IS frontier units will not end this uprising. Only the most inept and dodgy political class in history can do that.
Someone mentioned IS is full of impressionable dimwits - Every army is full of them. They wouldn't operate without them, ready to absorb racist rhetoric and kill on demand.
This specific group has a very obvious lineage back to the Iraq war.
Kurds, Kurdish/US relationship, Kurdish/Turkish peace deal. All mega important.
Calling a violent group by the name that it calls itself is not endorsing that groups aspirations.
After dogs dinner of Iraq war 2003 and the total failure to roll out N.A.C type state, do US war gamers prefer a Levant that is cantonised and easily managed? Why was IS allowed to flourish so unimpeded, Why no noise when Ramadi and Fallujah went? Just a thought.
The US is not puppet master of IS. However! BIG US arms companies are LOVING selling billions of dollars of weapons which will be used to destroy the captured weapons they sold last time. Those companies are heavily subsidized by the US government and have a very acute revolving door situation going on on Capitol Hill. Like a lot of this stuff it is systemically toxic, not necessarily some big 'behind the curtain' lie.
Someone asked why would the US fake the video? I'm not saying I believe it is faked but this is the fucking Middle East guys, lots at stake, bad mother-fucking place, fit ups, smoke screens, back channels, that's the norm.