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  • If I don't post tomorrow it's because special ops have stormed my house and shot me a few hundred times in the face for speaking the truth.

    I suppose I'm like a sexier, more astute Asange or a more virile, dashing Snowden.

  • us started making noise yesterday about the need to bomb isis in syria

    all europe needs is a friendly govt in syria that will allow gas pipelines to cross their soil connecting middle east gas ( qatar / iraq ) to european markets circumventing those nasty russians

    http://www.armedforcesjournal.com/pipeline-politics-in-syria/

    russia sided with syrian in the recent UN wranglings about stopping the syrian government bombing it's population, russia blocked / vetoed any action, this angered the us who started increasing their activity in ukraine and we all know what happened next and how that has evolved

    it seems cheap gas in europe required assad to be overthrown hence the need for the us to get feet on the ground and an enemy to attack somewhere close to syria, which will prbably escalate as assad does something stupid or gases people again

  • That Foley video is such a hoax. Unbelievable. And it's depressing how very few people seem to question it.

    He's probably dead, killed in an air strike or something, but there is definitely no murder of James Foley in that video.

  • Why would the British and American governments lie? Both are clear that it is authentic. Those who claim it is a hoax claim the governments are pretending it is real to stir up hatred among western citizens. They don't need to. Isis are already hated. If it were a hoax, this would be widely publicised. As it is, no major, creditable news source entertains the suggestion it is fake. This is conspiracy theorising for it's own sake.

  • tinfoil hat time?

  • It's vile and nasty and designed to rile. With cunning too (the UK accent).

    It will also not work.

    It's a bit like 911 stopped highjacking of aircraft for ever - someone tries to take over a plane now and the passengers will tear him to bits.

    All that will happen is that the US will intensify airstrikes against the NLDS as they should and must do. I'm only thankful that Mr Foley's parents must have already gone through much of the grieving process over the last two years knowing that they were unlikely to see their son alive again.

    Unbelievable what the dirty human soul is capable of doing when manipulated, what we are seeing here is mob rule in it's worst incarnation.

    Stop the planet please as I wish to get off.

  • That IS woman from Lewisham seems to be a smart-cookie

    “Any links 4 da execution of da journalist plz. Allahu Akbar. UK must b shaking up haha. I wna b da 1st UK woman 2 kill a UK or US terorrist!(sic)”

  • That AFJ article is utter bullshit.

  • Lol this thread

  • @apollo Have you watched the Foley video?

    That fake video made by those art students with the eagle snatching the kid in the park in Montreal is more believable.

    The Foley video fades to black when the cutting starts (when there is no blood).
    They dont ever show his head. Why not?
    Why would ISIS cut out the gruesome part? They're not the BBFC, it isn't a PG film.

    If you look at where the ISIS guy supposedly does the cut (just below the chin), then the body on the ground is cut in a completely different place - where did Foley's neck go?

    Apart from the fact it all feels fake in the runup to the cut itself.

    And then the British guy in the mask goes over to the other hostage, with barely a mark on his hands.
    Look at the video clips of Michael Adebolajo in Woolwich - his hands are completely red.

    I'm not a conspiracy theorist. That video is bullshit. Anyone with half a brain can see that.

  • Do not encourage people to watch the video. Have some respect for Foley. The more people that see the video the more successful a propaganda tool it is for Isis. We know what you think, and you are entitled to think it, but please shut up now. You are not being clever, you are just regurgitating the hysterical, and sick rantings of the usual internet conspiracy theorists. Your obsession with the video is revolting.

    The footage has been authenticated by the US and UK, but Scotland Yard has urged people to avoid spreading it through Twitter and Facebook](The footage has been authenticated by the US and UK, but Scotland Yard has urged people to avoid spreading it through Twitter and Facebook)

  • Have some respect for Foley

    not if he's still alive and he's joined the IS as their social media strategist

  • Was this a pinky promise? because if not it could change everything.

  • This thread.

  • "Your obsession with the video is revolting"

    Why do you think it's an obsession? I've posted two or three times about it, and this is probably my last one.

    I think that anything that is given as evidence / justification for starting a war deserves scrutiny.
    Do people never learn? Weapons of Mass Destruction and all that.

    "please shut up now"
    Fuck off - this is a forum, look up the definition of it. I havent said anything against the rules here. Saying 'please' doesn't make your sentiment any more mannerly.

  • "please shut up now"
    Fuck off - this is a forum, look up the definition of it. I havent said anything against the rules here.

    I take your point, that was not the right way of saying it. I stand by my point that you should not encourage people to watch the video, by describing and questioning details of it here.

  • Why? It's in the public domain. Mainstream news outlets are going over the details of it too.

  • police warning internet users they could be arrested over terrorism legislation for viewing or sharing the video which has since been removed by YouTube.

    wankers

  • I'm firmly on the fence here.
    But I do remember the press trying to foist that photo of 'bin Laden's corpse' on us.
    Turned out to be a mock up of another corpse and a well known bin Laden photo.
    So it's not beyond my imagination that this could be a phoney video.

  • police warning internet users they could be arrested over terrorism legislation for viewing or sharing the video which has since been removed by YouTube.

    wankers

    Also bullshit

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