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Yes i can imagine jim if there was only one group going out. The last thing you want is to amble about when you're after a fast ride with limited time. I can see how that can easily happen if not many turn up.
Unless i'm willing to head south there isn't really a massive amount of options available out in Essex without having to get the train out everywhere as you'll spend a lot of time riding through the suburbs before you get to the countryside. For the time being it will do for me i think. Would like to ride south but it just takes a bit of time to get there that's all.
They've seriously got to do something about that meeting point. I was like 'is this for real?' Was worried more about the puncture risk with all the glass on the pavements!