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@general_greyharbour
You can say that if you want, I won't cry.
I have some b123s on a pearl you can see them in a pic a few pages up but I just prefer the bulls for casual pootling.
As for the Zen, I can live without one but if I see one at a price I like, I'll pick one up for sure. Obviously it's all about the Shimano Olympic ring but they're rare as hen's teeth.