HOY Bikes at Evans

went to bikefest today and tried out the new hoy bikes really like the sram red version however to be honest i dont really know whats it ment for if your going to buy it for commuting with racing geometry and a 10 speed. good entry level race bike though, really like the new BMC range but way to expensive

Let the guy make his money lads don't be jealous maybe he sold out but go win 11 world titles and 6 Olympic titles then come back on your high horse and preach.

Let the guy make his money lads don't be jealous maybe he sold out but go win 11 world titles and 6 Olympic titles then come back on your high horse and preach.

Couldn't agree more...the only thing I can agree with on this thread is that it would have been nice to have seen the bikes distributed through independents

He's already got his own velodrome, the greedy bastard.
"You cannot give reputation to the same post twice".

Still funny though.

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'I’m really enjoying** building my brand** from scratch,' Hoy added.

From the photos it looks like Mssr Hoy is doing a Falcon--- the maker of the first Merckx branded bicycles. The Hoys look not unlike what Lidl or Aldi might sell...

Puh-Leeeeze!

You ever see an Aldi Bike?

These bikes are good, just as good as any other road bike. Most brands are just a brand these days, almost no one really designs or builds bikes. Just develops a brand, styling, marketing etc... Choose the most economical components for the generic frames and off they go to the shops.

The only thing not so favourable about these bikes is the typical skimping on chainsets, would be nice to see ones that match the groupsets be it Shimano or Sram instead of FSA. They could have also done some more unique graphics (looks a bit like Ritte but less good).

There is even a track bike coming;

http://www.hoybikes.com/track

He could at least have distributed them via independents, instead of putting another nail in the coffin of local bike shops.

He would have had to set that up himself though which would be massively costly and risky. I imagine Evans asked him to put his name to a bike range and paid him lots of money straight up, regardless of the sales.

http://www.hoybikes.com/track/94-hoy-fiorenzuola-track-bike £750 including omniumumumums.

Thoughts?

There was a media event for the Hoy track bikes at Revolution yesterday, got to see the bikes up close and speak to some of the Hoy crew.

Seems like Chris had quite a lot of input with the bikes though when I pointed out (to the guy in the picture with Hoy on page 1, who was struggling to put Hoy's own Hoy together properly) that the dual compound tyres fitted as standard (Chris's was upgraded to Conti Supersonics) would be turned away from most velodromes he was a bit taken aback.

I'm not really too up on what £750 gets you in an OTP track bike but with the Hoy bikes it does seem like you're getting something quite nice - the Omnomnoms, the finishing kit like stem and seatpost is un or self branded but seemed like pretty nice stuff - as opposed to a mediocre bike with an expensive sticker on the downtube (ie Boardman).

Seems like Chris had quite a lot of input with the bikes though when I pointed out (to the guy in the picture with Hoy on page 1, who was struggling to put Hoy's own Hoy together properly) that the dual compound tyres fitted as standard (Chris's was upgraded to Conti Supersonics) would be turned away from most velodromes he was a bit taken aback.

Let's face it, it's a hipster bike for road use, and the tyres were probably chosen to be good for skidding. :)

T the dual compound tyres fitted as standard (Chris's was upgraded to Conti Supersonics) would be turned away from most velodromes he was a bit taken aback.

A number of tracks won't accept clinchers of any brand or compound and a number of tracks don't just restrict what tubular tyres can be used but also what cement is used to attach them to rims. Good carbon black tubulars properly glued on using Terokal 2444 or shellac based mastic and inflated to 8+bar will probably be accepted everywhere..
On the dual compound front.. Interestingly the previous version of the Continental Olympic deployed Continental’s ASC silica compound. It was yellow.

Conti Olympics have long been--- and still are--- the most exclusive and expensive track tyre one can get from Korbach...

The previous versions were carbon black and the newest versions use carbon black nanoparticles, so-called "Black Chili"..

Blatant discrimination against people who are 5'11".

Though I don't care as I'm 6', and have always looked down at them.

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5'8" person with an ETT of 570?

A 'Small' with an ETT of 557?

Very odd sizing.
I'm 5'11" and would need a Small with 110mm stem. Doesn't sound right at all.

i'm 6.3 but a ht wit 600 is a bit too long for me. however, i don't care about hoy bikes

5'8" person with an ETT of 570?

A 'Small' with an ETT of 557?

Very odd sizing.
I'm 5'11" and would need a Small with 110mm stem. Doesn't sound right at all.

Those sizings are definitely mental. I'm 6' and ride 56cm frames, which apparently would be more suitable for someone who is 5'6"!!!

The sizes all seem--- on surface--- to be wack. The XL frame has a short stack height (53.8) and relatively long top-tube (60). With a 74degree seat-angle and 74 degree head angle I not only can't imagine who would fit it but who would ride it... Perhaps a frame for Michael Phelps or Magilla Gorilla....

Perhaps the chart is not correct?

^^Theo Boss?

As usual, bikes on sale at Evans are weightless.... Actually, for £750 it looks pretty good.

^^Theo Boss?

He tended to ride frame with shorter top-tubes and less steep seat angles on the track that these Hoys. His frames were Zeitgeist small stack but he also tended to grab for a high riser stem..

^Errrr, I wasn't being serious, he's just a very tall ex-trackie. Impressive knowledge, though!

Didn't pay much attention to the geo so can't comment on the chart being correct or not but I did notice they all (there was a few different sizes) had hugely long stems fitted.

Yup;

Kalloy Ahead stem, 3D-forged, 31.8mm, -7 degrees w/black bolts. Length: 100mm(XXS)
110mm(XS)
120mm(S/M)
130mm(L/XL)

Has anyone used a Hoy Fiorenzuola?

I'm looking at track bikes for when Derby velodrome opens.

The Hoy Fiorenzuola looks like a fairly decent bike with good components, especially the Omnium chainset.

I imagine a Cinelli Vigorelli set up with equivalent components would be at least £1,000.

If anyone has ridden a HF would you recommend it or would you say give it a miss?

Vigorelli can be had for £368 at the moment at kinoko, worth bearing in mind.

I have a Hoy Fiorenzuola, it's my first track bike so I have nothing to compare to other than the Fuji rental bikes at HHV to which there is no real comparison...

I'm 87kgs, and the bike hasn't broken underneath me yet...

Since getting it, I've put better tyres on it, changed the stem for the cheapest 130mm one I could find, changed bars to a pair I had knocking around that are more comfortable, and changed saddle to one I find more comfortable, apart from that it's stock. It's taken me to consistent top 5 placings in A category races, and I doubt the limiting factor in winning them is the bike.

Bearing in mind I got mine second hand but barely used for £300....