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• #27
That's much better, thanks
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• #28
How does direct picure uploading affect server power and storage? Not having to upload to a third party and then link a photo means I am doing it more often. If i had a g4 phone I wouldn't bother limiting file size.
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• #29
Why doesn't /today get rid of the threads I've read?
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• #30
The table is a Markdown extension, it's a little fussy but you basically draw it in ASCII using the pipe char
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to designate columns, line breaks to designate rows, and sets of three hyphens and pipes---|---
to mark out the header area.Tech|Guest Sessions per Day|User Sessions per Day|Session Duration|Bounce Rate|Posts per Day ---|---|---|---|---|--- vBulletin|10k|6k|9m 10s|37%|2.2k Microcosm|2.5k|7k|11m 53s|23%|2.4k
Note that you could just use HTML too, but I was being lazy.
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• #31
How does direct picure uploading affect server power and storage?
The world changed since we installed Vanilla back in 2007 and vBulletin in 2008. The cost of local file storage and bandwidth have both gone down dramatically, but the cost of cloud storage of images has made the total cost near zero.
We use Amazon S3 for image storing. 3 copies of an attachment are stored in different places around the world. We're paying pennies for the cost of this even though there are many GB of attachments.
We use CloudFlare in front of this for aggressive caching, CDN and for crunching image sizes (we dynamically optimise all images we serve to help make mobile fast). The cost of this is fixed no matter how much we serve.
Basically... it costs dramatically less to store and serve files, and yet is more robust, faster and feature rich.
We do limit the file size of an attachment though, and that's really because image optimisation can only do so much and we do want mobile users to have a good experience.
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• #32
We haven't put a filter in for that yet.
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• #33
Does the 2.4k shrink back to the original 2.2k if you exclude posts bitching and whiling about the new platform?
i.e. we're still the same bunch of argumentative tossers we always were, but now we have something new to moan about...
;-)
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• #34
Got a timeframe for that?
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• #35
I know I'm posting more about the forum itself than bike stuff. But that's also because I can't merge things that are stupid and some of the changes are quite annoying.
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• #36
Tricky SQL set operation innit?
Two answers in software for "how long?":
1) it's done.
2) no idea.You know this, surely?
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• #37
I get asked this all the time. shrugs is my stock answer.
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• #38
- done
- soon
- a while
- eventually
- fuck this, I think it's stalled.
- done
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• #39
From an investor perspective - how has the move to microcosm impacted the revenue from affiliates?
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• #40
Too early to tell.
Affiliate reporting always lags reality by a few days, and is then subject to adjustment (people returning stuff they buy). It takes a month or two to see those numbers settle.
But on a hunch... for week 1 the affiliates will have nose-dived as the Google traffic has nose-dived whilst they re-index and everything settles.
A significant chunk of the affiliate revenue comes from guests researching stuff, ending up here and following the links. Fewer spots in Google search results = fewer guests.
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• #41
@Velocio Thought it might be a bit early to tell.
I was under the impression that if using 301 redirects that Google ranking shouldn't suffer.
I ended up building a 5million record dbm mapping file for this exact purpose for one of our customers... who I am sure had been explicitly told by Google that if they correctly used 301 redirects from the old site to the new that their ranking would remain.
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• #42
Well what do you know, we have a 6+ million record database table mapping IDs from the old to the new.
301's are being used correctly, so it's not harming PageRank. But Google do detect change and are spidering at around 400k pages per day right now, and there has been a significant drop in traffic from Google (visible in Webmaster Tools and Analytics) since the change.
Who knows how Google works, but the current hypothesis is that Google slow down the referral rate (reduce the amount you appear in search results) when it detects major disruption to the URLs it's sending people to.
I think they basically have a quality measure and want to be sure they're sending people to an actual result.
I also think it's possibly an anti-spam thing... to detect and limit the impact of sites that lose their domain names and bad actors 301 everything to spammy stuff.
We can only wait and see. If we're hit badly, we'll raise the priority of creating sitemaps (which we're not doing right now).
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• #43
Interesting....
What about changing the crawl rate - could you up it significantly and dedicate a server to Google requests temporarily perhaps?
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• #44
400k pages per day is pretty fast, and it's not yet affecting our servers in a bad way.
If it affected our page speed, they'd slow down. So far it hasn't.
By the same logic, if they're not slowing down, then they're going as fast as they want already and adding another server is unlikely to make them go faster.
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• #45
@Velocio, quick question that may have been answered previously. But in the new world of microcosm, are adverts allowed and how would they look on the new cleaner site? Just wondering how a forum that already exists on vbulletin with shit loads of ads/banners etc would be migrated across and what it would look like if those adverts were carried across too? And whether part of the entry to using microcosm is that your sites are advert free?
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• #46
Adverts are allowed, it's entirely up to the site owner whether they want them.
As yet, no-one has wanted them. But as and when they do, we'll figure out exactly their needs and where to put them (and how the site owner can configure them).
You may expect that on the desktop site that the space between the logo and user info box in the header could contain an advert, or that the space in the side bar could contain an advert.
You may also imagine that on the mobile view, that the adverts are small banners that appear within or before/after lists of items.
Microcosm's proposition is that we take the affiliate revenue, and later when we add value-add services to the site users and admins (i.e. classifieds, event ticket sales, paid membership management, etc) that we take a service fee for that stuff.
But we aren't prohibiting the site owners themselves from making additional revenue from adverts, merchandise (T-shirt sales), etc.
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