M_V's multitude of bikes and adventures in the land of framebuilding

Probably 80mm, at the time, they also sell a rigid version too with suspension corrected fork, so I reckon you'll be fine.

Awesome, I'm an utter noob when it comes to front end geometry so good to hear that you think it'll be ok!

Suntour 26" fork with 80mm travel = 459mm a-t-c.

Suntour 26" with 100mm travel = 479mm a-t-c.

Something to start with I reckon.

I think fitting that P2 I have then will definitely have the front end sitting a little lower than its supposed to then.

It seems like really early P2s were 390mm then they moved to 410/440mm. I expect mine will be 410mm but I can measure in the morning and I can even just try them in there for a while once I get the frame.

Given I'll be running the Blackburn Outpost rack up front what's better, a shorter fork/steeper head angle or a longer fork/slacker angle?

The 1" headtube Muddyfox frame replaced with the Columbus tubed 1 1/8" headtube Marin frame.

Performed well but thinking that I might try a Jones type bar or the swept back bars that were on the 1x1 a wee while ago as I've found that I have quite a lot of back/shoulder/neck discomfort today after riding yesterday. Probably due to a lot of yesterday's riding being off road but I think the bars I have are maybe a bit narrow. Might make sense as I think they are 42s which is probably what I should ride on a normal drop, on these the hoods sit a good bit inboard of where the bars would have been measured.

Try and search for a Titec H bar. they're basically a copy of the Jones bar but on a budget, I used to have one on my old MTB and work pretty well.

Was about to suggest that, one went on eBay last week for £35 or so.

dejavu. wasn't this conversation had elsewhere very, very recently?

Something about a touring bar on rosebikes.co.uk

Chak posted some link to bars in some thread or other.

It's in the fbnpnap thread.

I really need to make a FBNPNA sticker.

Or even a stem cap but that'd limit bike choice.

Put me down for one if you do.

Still on the topic of Jones Bars, with the carbon version being announced yesterday I think it's a pretty safe bet you'll see a lot of the bikepacking crowd (especially the competitive ones) replacing theirs. Hopefully some second-hand bargains to be had...

love this

also theres a muddyfox just like/yours for sale on ebay.. would have bought it but too small! building something similar. thanks for the thread!

Sure it's not mine?

Probs yours. Theres a matching stem floating around, too.

Up at Loch Ard were we? ;)

Edit: not at tits, at Vandal

Aye, good job recognising it.

Was trying to follow the statute labour road up to near loch arklet/inversnaid but got a bit lost.

Hahah, sounds right! Good few bits of singletrack around there, going to be digging some trails soon there too, or at least trying to fix some.

Take it you live in that area then?

I don't drive do it's quite a ride to get out there so I tend to do it on a bike more suited to distance than joining about in the forest.

Actually, on a related note, I've been thinking about an IGH for the 1x1 for a while but I do like riding ss plus putting gears on a bike named for its singlespeededness seemed wrong.

I've been looking at Nuvinci hubs recently though and I'm really tempted to get one for the 1x1.

I figure that as there aren't any distinct 'gears' within the Nuvinci hub I won't be shaming the frame too much?

You really gotta try it out as it's very much a personal preference.

The weight may be similar to a full 3x8 drivetrain but it's all in the back wheel, also you might not like the lack of direct feel which feel numb and disconnected.

@edscoble would you say the Nuvinci suffers more from the 'soft and disconnected' feel than other IGHs?

My experience if IGHs is really limited to Sturmey and Sachs 3 speed hubs but I have briefly ridden Alfine/Nexus and Rohloffs.

Grandparents live in one of the houses next to the Loch, I go up there a fair amount. Taking my Rune V2 up there this year, going to dig some trails if I get enough time, theres so much potential!