Cyclists stay back! stickers

Why's that?

guys! guys!.... stay back, yeah?

Sure but only as I approve of the danger zone...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siwpn14IE7E

Ear worm? You're welcome.

Had a bit of a go at John Lewis about their shitty "Stay Back" stickers a few weeks ago. They replied today. here's my message and their reply:

to: csr@johnlewis.co.uk

subject: threatening notices on the back of your lorries

Hi

Please could you let me know if you plan to remove the threatening notices currently stuck on the back of your lorries. These notices state "Cyclists, DO NOT pass on the inside" not only is this incorrect advice, it also could give your drivers the false impression that they are absolved of responsibility should an accident with a cyclist occur. TFL, whose "Cyclists, Stay Back" notices are placed on the back of buses and other vehicles, today (26 June) accepted that these notices are misleading and have agreed to remove them. Please could you confirm that you will do the same? A more suitable notice would be "cyclists, please be careful when passing this vehicle on the inside"

I look forward to hearing your reply

Kind regards

Dear Sir,

Thank you for your email, I apologise for the delay in response.

Safety is the top priority in all of the Partnership’s operations.

We are aware of the relatively high risk profile of HGVs as regards cyclists, especially in London, and the fact that the majority of cyclists killed in incidents with HGVs are involved in an incident on the vehicles’ left hand side. We have therefore invested in cyclist safety messaging as recommended by Transport for London fitting these to our large commercial vehicle fleet only.

Our drivers are required to be constantly vigilant and the stickers in no way absolve them of that responsibility.

We are aware already that TfL is looking to update its messaging and aim to take part in those discussions and expect our signage will in due course evolve in light of this.

The Partnership is a member of the Freight Transport Association’s Cycle Safety Working Group.

Kind regards,

Amaya
Coordinator, CSR
John Lewis Partnership

mildly disappointing but looks like they may change them at some future date.

Good work and that's probably as good a response as you're likely to get.

and the fact that the majority of cyclists killed in incidents with HGVs are involved in an incident on the vehicles’ left hand side.

that true?

I think it is true but HGVs from stores are seldom involved in collisions with cyclists. Construction industry and skips, followed by waste management are more frequently involved AFAIK.

I thought 25% of fatalities were rear impacts, and the cyclist being hit by a left-turning lorry doesn't necessarily mean injudicious filtering by any means.

Indeed, spindrift. Left hooks caused by 'overtake and forget cyclist' driving feature highly on helmet videos and possibly occur in several fatal collisions but
Dead men tell no tales.

More reason for a helmet camera

It's always worth posting your previous comment on this

The lorry driver who killed cyclist Catriona Patel was drunk and
chatting on a mobile.

The lorry driver who killed Eilidh Cairns had faulty eyesight (the
police didn't even bother to discover this until the same driver
killed another woman.)

The lorry driver who killed cyclist Brian Dorling turned across his
path.

The lorry driver who killed cyclist Svetlana Tereschenko was in an
unsafe lorry, failing to indicate and chatting on a mobile. The police
decided to charge him with..nothing.

The lorry driver who killed cyclist Deep Lee failed to notice her and
smashed into her from behind.

The lorry driver that killed cyclist Andrew McNicoll failed to notice
him and side swiped him.

The lorry driver that killed cyclist Daniel Cox was in a truck which
did not have the correct mirrors and whose driver had pulled into the
ASL on a red light and was indicating in the opposite direction to
which he turned.

Six-figure compensation after a three year battle for cyclist thrown from bike by left turning lorry

http://road.cc/content/news/126756-six-figure-compensation-after-three-year-battle-cyclist-thrown-bike-left-turning

Kirby Stebbing, 27, was cycling along Balls Pond Road in Hackney when the HGV cut across her route, causing her to collide with the cab of the lorry. The impact threw her from her bike and dragged her under the wheels.

tl;dr She should have read the sticker.

On my walking commute to vauxhall station 12 out of the 14 skips lorry that passed me had a interesting sticker on the left handside door. The sticker said warning! pedestrians do not pass this vehicle on this side! A bit hard not to on the pavement.

http://t.co/A5KLIGA6yq

guys! guys!.... stay back, yeah?

That was fucking brilliant btw greenhell. #rep

Highway Maintenance? Needs a 'Shut up and Fix the Fucking Roads' sticker over them all. Useless fucks.

http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/67408

Where's that list of London HGV+ Cyclist victims?

That's it. Thanks.

Grim reading still. :(

Nice

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gave a hearty thumbs up to to a white van with a stay awesome sticker on it the other day through wimbledon

Those Racy Sts. They get everywhere.

Ah yeah this was the 'campaign' run in their local newsletter, the 'Birchfield Bugle' that talked about 'cyclists from other countries'.