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• #31227
How do people find it so difficult to ignore trolls? I don't get it. Zero engagement is all that is required.
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• #31228
rogue elements .
This made me wonder... in a nation where everybody has to do military service, what does it tell you about the ones who choose to stay on, and is that the kind of mentality you want?
Oh look I'm being forced to fight and kill people. Sounds fun. Where do I sign up?
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• #31229
they should bring back military service in this country, that'll sort the layabout no-goodnicks who spend life sponging on the state right out in my day we ate cold boots for tea rah rah etc...
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• #31230
could we just chop israel in half and give the top half to the muslims and the bottom half to the jews
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• #31231
What about the Christians?
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• #31232
Aren't we only a few years away from the British fuck-up that caused it all?
Wasn't it WW1 and the need to get Jewish support to help bring the US into the war, that led the UK government to support a motion to assist in the establishment of a Jewish state within the region of Palestine.
We fucked up royally by also drawing lines on a map of what is now Syria and Iraq, and putting borders in illogical places, as they should've followed the rivers.
Pretty much all the British fault when it comes down to it. We do like to make thousands of years of history have a nice bloody chapter towards the end.
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• #31233
This made me wonder... in a nation where everybody has to do military service, what does it tell you about the ones who choose to stay on, and is that the kind of mentality you want?
Oh look I'm being forced to fight and kill people. Sounds fun. Where do I sign up?
Of course you don't have to be an Israeli citizen to fight for the IDF.
Apparently there are around 100 UK citizens currently serving
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• #31234
My personal middle-East troll technique is to refer to people based on the religious beliefs that ultimately define the conflict.
i.e. "Israel bombed the UN school" becomes "Jewish people bombed the UN school". Or "Hamas has built tunnels through which a few fighters popped up and shot people" becomes "Muslim people built tunnels through which a few fighters popped up and shot people".
It nearly works except that Israeli army is not all Jewish--- and 1/4 of the population of Israel are not Jewish. HAMAS is, as a Muslim Brotherhood franchise, a Muslim group. While Phalangists are officially secular they are effectively Christian just as the Kach is Jewish. Within the Arab-Israeli conflict the Christians are somehow caught in the middle. In Lebanon, for example, many groups have been forced to pact with Hezbollah as a counter to the Sunni movements--- witness the plight of Christians in Syria and Iraq. In Israel, Christian Arabs are trapped by the radicalization of their Muslim neighbors. As a response, a number of new movements and alliances have started to emerge. The Bnei Brit HaHadasha is perhaps the most open amonst them. At confererences a number of openly anti-Zionist Arab politicians have confided to me their distaste for the Palestinian narrative. Its not black and white in the Middle East but Clan versus Clan, Tribe versus Tribe and a whole lot of corruption and hands out to the oil rich states to play out their political agenda... Gaza, unfortunately, is a police state so there is no chance to express any dissent... else meet one's death in short order as a Zionist collaborator.. Alone this year nearly 100 have met their end as "collaborators"..
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• #31235
Wasn't it WW1 and the need to get Jewish support to help bring the US into the war, that led the UK government to support a motion to assist in the establishment of a Jewish state within the region of Palestine.
That is absurd. A large number of Jews in WW-I fought in the German and Austrian armies. 4 million Jews lived in Eastern Europe. Russia was aligned with the UK and US but Jews in Russia were not. That is why the Revolution ended Russia's alliance with the West. With over 100,000 Jews serving the German army and Jewish scientists such as Haber working to advance the war effort and open questions of Jewish loyalty in the UK and US, its hard to suggest that the ....
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• #31236
Who are you
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• #31237
He's the man behind the muslamic ray gun.
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• #31238
He's the man behind the muslamic ray gun.
Back in April 2013 your wrote
Stop trying to take my crown.
The ray gun crown is clearly yours...
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• #31239
You've won.
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• #31240
What are you
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• #31241
Too much credit
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• #31242
http://www.scotsman.com/news/odd/drunk-passenger-attacked-plane-crew-with-false-leg-1-3495360
When police came on board to escort her off the plane, people started singing the Hokey Cokey.
Well played, Scotland. Well played.
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• #31243
Hasbara.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_diplomacy_(Israel)
The term is used by the Israeli government and its supporters to describe efforts to explain government policies and promote Israel in the face of negative press, and to counter what they see as delegitimisation of Israel around the world. Hasbara means "explanation", and is also a euphemism for propaganda
http://972mag.com/hasbara-why-does-the-world-fail-to-understand-us/27551/
Hasbara targets political elites, opinion makers and the public simultaneously; it includes traditional advocacy efforts as well as more general appeals made through mass media, and it is carried out by government agencies, non-governmental organizations, lobbying groups, private citizens, students, journalists and bloggers.
The Israeli government encourages all citizens to actively engage in Hasbara. Recently, it even distributed brochures with talking points to all Israelis traveling abroad (a Hebrew web version of the campaign can be viewed here). Israelis are asked to engage in politically-oriented conversations with their hosts and contacts abroad. Rather than discuss the Palestinian conflict, they are advised to cite Israeli technological achievements, mention environmental policies and take pride in notable cultural works. The West Bank is to be discussed – under its ancient Hebrew name, Judea and Samaria – as a potential tourist marvel.
http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Op-Ed-Contributors/Hasbara-public-diplomacy-and-propaganda-358211
We get so carried away in presenting our case that listening to us is sometimes exhausting, depressing, boring, and annoying.
Ahem.
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• #31244
as with most things these days don't know if it is true or russian hackers but quite fun
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• #31245
Very much true I would say. Stories of Gideon's youthful exploits have been floating around for a while, hence his caricature in Steve Bell's cartoons.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjL2jjDp-I8
The one good thing Ed has ever done.
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• #31246
woop woop
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• #31247
Well that went well
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-28603599
The army said it had warned residents to stay indoors.
Yeah that will help when a rocket lands in the middle of your sitting room or child's bedroom
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• #31248
Just one thought about Gaza;
Tunnels are now the reason for the fighting right? Tunnels under the border into Israel?
That means they have two ends. Are the ends in Gaza signposted? Or could you simply use ground penetrating radar on the Israeli side of the fence and destroy them on that side without needing to be in Gaza in the first fucking place?
No Hats, you're correct.
They're not to do with religion.
Religious conflicts- (Syria), Iraq.
Land conflicts hidden or using religion as an excuse:
Ireland, Palestine.