Polo Rules

We have a penalty for dissent too. Savage almost got thrown out of the game for giving the ref shit on our team, to be honest I wouldn't have argued with that decision.

The current ruleset is very good and has made the game more enjoyable to play and watch. Feedack from the euros: The biggest problem is players not knowing the rules and poor reffing, not the rules themselves.

When players don't understand (or haven't read) the rules, the game becomes very stop/start, especially in a competitive environment like the Euros. When ref isn't up to the job the game becomes ugly. On the final day in the latter stages of the double elim - when teams understood the rules and knew that the ref will blow the wistle - games became very clean and amazing to watch, spectators were applauding moves and plays.

Problems
Players:
1) Several players didn't know that off ball checking is a penalty.
2) Subsequently players didn't know that incidental contact on a screen is OK. This lead to confusion.
3) Goal mouth clusterfuck. Lots of dubious 'incidental' body-body and bike-bike contact. This happened far too often.

Reffing:
1) Refs with a poor understanding of the rules. (one or two)
2) Refs not enforcing the rules. (more common)

There is a simple solution for both of these. Have a head ref, have a refs briefing and have the head ref brief the players about penalty rules before the start of the tournament/for each group.

I would also like to see some official NAH demonstration videos about the contact rules. Clear, short clips about what is legal and what should be called.

Really good summary of the issues.
The first clip from Mr.Do from NAHBPC with Brian check who seems to be under Flagrance and Charging fouls. Not sure that everybody knows that around. So that's a good thing to share it.

Promo NAHBPC 2014 on Vimeo

Right now i asked Do to make clip of situations where some fouls were or should be called in the next games he gonna publish. So we can help reffing by watching his videos and pointing some intersting situations. If you find some in games he posted, just let me know and i will ask him to make a short clip of it.

For Euros rep as ref, as far as I know, Dany, Benji, Vincent, Alejandro and Johana Helped by reffing at euros. Personnally i can't play and ref so i try to work prior and after tournaments.
For sure it would be really helpful that Euros reps knows rules and can be able to ref games.
I would say that every community should be able to provide one ref or two.

I love you adam but I disagree

bi-polo

Don't you mean MPD, multiple polo disorder?

the other one of me might have.

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my advice:

let everyone else moan about the rules whilst you keep slaying.

Excellent and safe checking, please note:

hmm, I think he's avoiding the high sticking, look at her other arm, she's got the mallet way to high.

He's missed her shoulder though.

Given she's not paying attention and not really trying to block, I'd call that flagrant, especially if she ends up on the floor.

clean check?
le tour de france rider Kevin Reza picks up my helmet cam - YouTube

hmm, I think he's avoiding the high sticking, look at her other arm, she's got the mallet way to high.

Yeah but she is not playing the ball and is allowed to have her arm/mallet high

Good work.

Interference on Vimeo

Nice need moar videos

I'm guessing that guy thought he was fair game as if he was screening but he definitely was not.

Good video. Should be fairly straightforward for everyone to understand now.

Can we get Luca in to translate the video to French?

she is not paying attention. She's waving to her mum, def clean check. Yorgo how can you call that chicken wing / elbow ting a good check? Excellent save by Reza though.

regarding the video. I have heard so many people tell me that a hit like that is just 'closing the door' nice to see it getting eradicated.

Closing the door at speed into somebody is a little different then making sure a door is shut before they get to it, then you've got to consider the cat flap and any open windows.

You should probably switch off electrical items at the plug if you're away for a while.

yes but in winter, leave the heating on low so your pipes don't freeze.

Sage advise, I tend to turn it down to come on just a few times a day to protect the pipes but not waste too much money.

Video is really helpful, but I need to see more examples to understand this rule. And I have a bunch of questions:

**What if player in white (W) stopped or slowed down so that contact was never made? ** No foul? Same result for player in green (G) - he's stopped W from getting near G's teammate who has the ball...

**What if it wasn't against a board? ** Presumably then contact would not happen, or if it did, it would be much harder to say who 'initiated' it to the point that I doubt any ref would call it? How would you define an acceptable line for G to take? Isn't it like right-of-way?

What if G survived the contact, or even managed to charge through, knocking W off? Still a foul by G? In that instance is it like blocking in basketball where often the person who ends up on the floor is the person who committed the foul? (not necessarily a bad thing, but could do with highlighting that ending up on the floor doesn't automatically make you the victim, same as with T-Boning)

**What if player in white (W) stopped or slowed down so that contact was never made? ** No foul? Same result for player in green (G) - he's stopped W from getting near G's teammate who has the ball...

No contact = no foul. Then it's just screening (which is allowed)

**What if it wasn't against a board? ** Presumably then contact would not happen, or if it did, it would be much harder to say who 'initiated' it to the point that I doubt any ref would call it? How would you define an acceptable line for G to take? Isn't it like right-of-way?

The board is largely irrelevant to this. G is screening W, so W has the right to make contact, G does not. Refs should call it, and were calling it at NAs.

What if G survived the contact, or even managed to charge through, knocking W off? Still a foul by G? In that instance is it like blocking in basketball where often the person who ends up on the floor is the person who committed the foul? (not necessarily a bad thing, but could do with highlighting that ending up on the floor doesn't automatically make you the victim, same as with T-Boning)

Yes, still a foul by G, again because they do not have the right to make contact in that situation. Obviously that assumes the contact by W isn't illegal or flagrant.