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From all the reviews I can find the Rohloff hub is unmatched, and even the 11sp Shimano is lacking. I just really don't want grip shift
My issue is more a dislike of grip shift, than trying to get a shifter that can be put on drop bars. But thanks :)
Its because they're not as mass produced and rohloff do things differently (2 cable shifters, hub controls indexing ect)