Road Wheels & Road Wheel Recommendations?

awesome. thanks miro

any spoke recommendations? just something light and double/triple butted?

I take it 6800 hubs can run 10/11 speed too. only have 10 spd bikes atm but will likely get an 11 spd soon so future proofing important

They should come with a 1.85mm spacer to use with a 10-speed cassette, in addition to the usual 1mm spacer if your 10-speed cassette has the rebated large sprockets carrier.

Double butted spokes such as Sapim Race or ACI.

With 32h it's common to use lighter spokes such as Sapim Laser on the front and sometimes rear NDS. I've never built or ridden Lasers so can't comment.

any spoke recommendations?

If I were building them, I'd use DT Alpine III. Not necessary, but an ounce of extra protection in case you put on about 5st. or decide to add racks and bags and explore the world's less pristine byways. Any normal (14/15 or 14/16 gauge) double butted spoke will be fine at your current weight and usage. Lightweight spokes (Sapim Lasers, Dt Revolution etc.) are pointless, leave them to the weight weenies.

Can anyone confirm if/why wider rims are harder to mount tyres on than slimmer ones? Ordered some Pacenti SL23s and am now fearing getting a flat on the road.

because of their width

Its the tubeless that's the problem not the width. The rim bed will be at the very upper end of 622mm diameter range to make sure the seal is toight loike a toiger.

Ordered some Pacenti SL23s

Bring a lot of tyre levers

What adoubletap said. Don't listen to Amey.

Ugh.

I am not against wide rims; I am just saying its hard to mount road tyres because of rim width .. I've heard very good things about SL23 but if you are already in murica maybe you can get hands on HED Belgium+ rims only ..

If it's of note.

When I first mounted my GP4000s on my Stans crest rims, I got some blisters. I needed a park too lever to get it off, they're made of steel (plastic). After it's been sat on there for a month, I could get it off pretty easily. After a year I can pull it on and off with my fingers in a few moments. The tyre will stretch, a bit like you'd need to do to a tub. So just bare that in mind.

It takes a bit of skill to get a tight tyre over the rim but there are some tricks.

Do the final seating at the valve, this goes agains convention but gives more slack.
Make sure the tyre edge is in the centre of the rim, at the narrowest point.
Use your fingers, thumbs as lever to push it over. Tyre levers are just not going to work.

Amey, it's not because of your opinion on width, it's because you're wrong. It has nothing to do with rim width, it's because of what adoubletap said.

Archetypes were so easy to mount a new tyre to and they're wide. Stans flows are also wide but were an absolute cunt, because they're tubeless.

What adoubletap said. Don't listen to Amey.

This should be quoted often.

^^ ah gotcha; I guess then my A23 were tubeless as they were totally pain to get marathon supremes on

Its the tubeless that's the problem not the width. The rim bed will be at the very upper end of 622mm diameter range to make sure the seal is toight loike a toiger.

+1

I did not know that.

So we have concluded tubeless is bullshit. Somebody inform the cycling industry please.

Would disagree with that. The Ardennes + mount reasonably easy, yet to be confirmed in the field due to the Continental tyres. I run them with tubes and they are most rolling.

This isn't a problem is you just use tubeless tyres too

Would disagree with that. The Ardennes + mount reasonably easy, yet to be confirmed in the field due to the Continental tyres. I run them with tubes and they are most rolling.

I have the HED Belgium rims, I did not think that they were tubeless compatible though?

I have the HED Belgium rims, I did not think that they were tubeless compatible though?

They aren't. Ludwig is misinformed.

Here's the original and revised tubeless compatible A23 rim extrusions to compare.

And the profiles of all the wide rims; SL23 is the only one with the tubeless channel and the shoulders that make tyre mounting a mare.

http://fcdn.roadbikereview.com/attachments/wheels-tires/294173d1396963829-velocity-a23-vs-pacenti-sl23-rim-profiles.jpg