Is it time to start calling out bad cyclists?

There are at least two types of bad cyclist: those that are bad because they're nervous/unsure/poorly trained, who in my experience seem to appreciate polite advice (at least to my face!), and those who are bad cyclists simply because they're dickheads. The latter type don't seem to appreciate any kind of talk, unsurprisingly.

It's extremely hard to intervene in a way that other road users can respond positively. Calling out, the question at the heart of this thread, seems to entrench rather than enlighten.

There are at least two types of bad cyclist: those that are bad because they're nervous/unsure/poorly trained, who in my experience seem to appreciate polite advice (at least to my face!), and those who are bad cyclists simply because they're dickheads. The latter type don't seem to appreciate any kind of talk, unsurprisingly.

Pretty much these. Though I'd opt for a screaming match if it diverted someone's attention from meeting their maker in front of my eyes.

There are at least two types of bad cyclist: those that are bad because they're nervous/unsure/poorly trained, who in my experience seem to appreciate polite advice (at least to my face!), and those who are bad cyclists simply because they're dickheads. The latter type don't seem to appreciate any kind of talk, unsurprisingly.

They do appreciated a good CockPunch™ though.

It's extremely hard to intervene in a way that other road users can respond positively. Calling out, the question at the heart of this thread, seems to entrench rather than enlighten.
Couldn't agree more. But sometimes (like today's incident) I feel I have to

Just got reminded about the utter bellwipe that I encountered the other evening at the Bethnal Green Road/Roman Road junction.

I'd stopped behind a bus indicating to turn left and a tipper truck in the next lane as there was no safe way to pass and I'd judged that the lights were going to change soon anyway. There was no need to even attempt filtering through the traffic. The belm in question decided to push past me on his wide riser bar MTB and got wedged between tonnes of death. He hit is bars on the tipper truck and began to fall towards the bus on the left as the lights changed and I thought he was going to get sucked under. He planted a foot on the ground and stayed stationary whilst all the traffic passed him.

As I cycled past I said, "That's why I waited back there" he told me to fuck off...

Couldn't agree more. But sometimes (like today's incident) I feel I have to

Absolutely! My comment immediately after yours is comiseration not criticism.

I feel like I'm going to try to revive the supernanny / behaviour modification idea. Praise the positive, ignore the stupidity... what could be The Naughty Step though?

Courtesy is infectious!

https://twitter.com/skullyben/status/453850483653083136

There is a guy/lass at work who is far from courteous after work each day (when its sunny so he/she will ride) he/she locks there lock tho the rack preventing anyone else using that space, which is dickish on a communal rack but what's worse is he/she runs the cable through the bay to the left so that they have space to walk down the side of their bike...

there is a rail which people may leave locks on so there is no excuse other than to dibs a space.

^I make a point of locking to the railings people have 'dibsed' like this in work.

There is a guy/lass at work who is far from courteous after work each day (when its sunny so he/she will ride) he/she locks there lock tho the rack preventing anyone else using that space, which is dickish on a communal rack but what's worse is he/she runs the cable through the bay to the left so that they have space to walk down the side of their bike....

Do the same with your lock (in the same space) overnight (if there's space). Hopefully it will make the point.

Otherwise leave a passive aggressive note and be done with it.

Time to fill the lock mechanism with glue.

I just spent £300 on replacement wheels don't fancy someone haphazardly yanking my locked wheel out of the stand. was tempted to bring my krypto locks in and double lock the racks but I CBA dealing with the arrogant douche.

Shit on their lock. It's the only reasonable thing to do.

I'm aware its petty that it pisses me off as it hasn't prevented me from locking up yet, but it does none the less

I'll gladly lend you a lock if it shits on their ahead?

Guys in full hI viz and helmets in thia sort of weather diving on and off pavements rather than being part of the traffic (even if its momentarily stopped) are fucking pissing me off!!!

Blighty needs a legion of social worker types paid to ride around giving friendly advice to summer riders on how to avoid being
Choppers
Throbbers
Nodders

"Sir, I am arresting you for being a Throbber on the public highway"

I want that police force.

Blighty needs a legion of social worker types paid to ride around giving friendly advice to summer riders on how to avoid being
Choppers
Throbbers
Nodders

Chobders?
Thropders?
Nodpers?

"Sir, I am arresting you for being a Throbber on the public highway"

I want that police force.

Ah the antiquated, but still enforceable, offence of Throbbing furiously!

Couldn't agree more. But sometimes (like today's incident) I feel I have to

I find flipping my shit makes people take heed a bit. I do look like I'm about to commit murder on my bike though.
Like the other day Up Camden/Delancey st, same corner as the recent death, tipper truck indicating for ages before moving off, I'm waiting behind when two guys come up on the left and the first one moves right up into the kill zone with his friend not uttering a peep. I just lost it, which seemed to snap the first guy back into reality and he toppled over onto the pavement.
I just carried on shouting at him asking what the fuck was he thinking. He and his mate seemed to take it to heart.
it might be an overly aggressive approach, but I'm not in a hurry to witness someone end up under a truck again.

^that Delancy street is a F*CKING death trap from the highstreet lights all the way up the where it joins parkway etc. Nowhere to cross and the filter system means a steady stream of cars. Suprised more accidents don't happen there TBH. Had pulled over to sort my backpack out after crossing Delancy southbound along Arlington when I heard a massive crunching noise behind me. Turn around to see a car piling headlong over the pedestrian island, through a set of railings and into the wall of that cafe on the corner. Turns out two motorcyclists were fanging it up there as all traffic does every time I wait at that junction (you can never cross it unless the pedestrian lights have been pressed) and the driver has misjudged their speed, pulled out and theyve both gone straight into her doing well over 30mph. The way one was lying and the positioning of his body parts I thought he was dead, it was horrible. Blood and bits of motorbikes everywhere, one fellas watch had snapped off his wrist and was lying by my foot. Side of the car was totally wrecked like it had been through a crusher. When I left both were moving but pretty seriously injured. HATE that road. Rant over.

Ugh, sounds awful. Was that up by the little cafe/newsagent place? (good sandwiches there btw)

I did a Dr Bike on the horrifically 'designed' Vauxhall Junction (Beesborough Rd/Millbank NE side).

Got a letter and layout drawing through the door the other day - they're holding 4 public consultations on the proposed redesign of CS5 on Harlyeyford Road, where it joins Vauxhall Cross at the RVT.

Thursday 10th July, 15:00-19:00, Upstairs at the Constitution, 42 Churton St, SW1V 2LP

Saturday 12th July, 11:00-15:00, Pimlico Library, Lupus Street, SW1V 3EY

Thursday 17th July, 15:00-19:00, Montgomery Hall, 58 Kennington Oval, SE11 5SW

Thursday 24th July, 15:00-19:00, St Anne & All Saints Church Hall, Miles Street, SW8 1RL

To be fair, the proposal doesn't look too bad - but keen to make sure they get grippier blue paint after a recent wet ride "oh shit" moment.

Bloke in a badly fitting suit on a boris (/ken) bike with the saddle set 6" too low and headphones in undertaking a left turning bus on a sharp corner at aldgate - if the driver hadn't seen him at the last second he would've been ketchup. They should have some sort of IQ test at the bike hire points.