Touring Equipment

If I remember. My mate has it at his house.

I might nab some when we're next camping. It knocks purple meths out of the water. I reckon it burnt twice as long at the same ferocity.

Very similar to this but with a slightly different label:

You sure its not the burner, as opposed to the fuel

Definitely sure.

Sat morning I used the French stuff on a clean pan and no soot.
Sun morning used meths on a clean pan = soot.

Same burner and same stove.

Anyone recommend a wheelset for a lightourer.

130mm oln hubs. Able to take 28's but can double for audax?

Thinking open pro with 105 hubs?

Best not go for Open Pro, Rigida Grizzy would be the best option, or the Mavic A719.

What about the sputniks cheap as chips and only 100g heavier? Planning 28s too.

Hubs?

Very similar to this but with a slightly different label:

This is what is commonly used here in Canada for alcohol stoves - no additives, no schmutz left behind.
https://www.acklandsgrainger.com/AGIPortalWeb/WebSource/ProductDisplay/globalProductDetailDisplay.do?item_code=RCD13-391

Best not go for Open Pro, Rigida Grizzy would be the best option, or the Mavic A719.

Didn't Rigida change their name to Ryde

Best not go for Open Pro

Why not?

Because it's too narrow to take advantage of tyres bigger than 23mm.

as someone who actually rides open pro's with 28c tyres (duranos) everyday

they're fine, ignore ed. Would not put any wider on though

You did ride them at a ridiculously high pressure mind you.

I rode 28s on open pros all winter and didn't have a problem however they were definitely at the limit of the rim. Personally I would go with a wider rim to give more tyre options and nicer handling.

** and yes I also rode at high pressure (above the tyre rating in fact)

You did ride them at a ridiculously high pressure mind you.

don't talk to me about tyre pressure. I hear your rims clonking the road everytime you hit a pothole

That was the Spokey dokey on the rear wheel that you've been hearing.

You should go in front of me if it bothering you that much.

it's hard to get around you when your wobbling all over the road like a drunken sailor

as someone who actually rides open pro's with 28c tyres (duranos) everyday

they're fine, ignore ed. Would not put any wider on though

This is my experience too, fine upto and including 28's.

I have sputniks on deore xt, ride really well and seem plenty strong.

read too many things about the mavic equivalents braking is the main reason I went for them - although I imagine sputniks have broken in the past too!

They are heavy but who cares!

as someone who actually rides open pro's with 28c tyres (duranos) everyday

they're fine, ignore ed. Would not put any wider on though

This. I've ridden OPs for at least ten years with different 28mm tires with no issues at all.

I rode with Open Pro with 28mm tyres in the past, just because you can doesn't mean you should.

No point in getting Open Pro if you want to ride with 28mm tyres generally.

I rode from h Open Pro with 28mm tyres in the past, just because you can doesn't mean you should.

No point in getting Open Pro if you want to ride with 28mm tyres generally.

Mavic recommends the Open Pro from 19 to 28mm. There is really no issue at all.

http://www.mavic.com/rims-road-triathlon-open-pro?mobile=1

Like I said, just because you can doesn't mean you should, it did says 28mm max.

Hence the recommendation of the Rigida Grizzly with it's 19mm internal width that allow you to run your 28mm tyres at the ideas pressure.

Hubs?

Your suggestion of the 105 hubs is more than enough for the purpose, if you want cheaper, the Tiagra is equally as good for a little over half the price of the 105.

Serious question; why would you think that you can't run 28s at full pressure on an OP? I've never had an issue with sidewalls splitting, save for one faulty tire. Is there something I'm missing?

I never said anything about it'll cause failure, just that it's better (more comfort, grip, improved handling etc.) to run 28mm on a wider rims than on a narrower rims at the highest pressure to prevent the tyres from squirming too much.