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Regards the zero protein thing...
Hutch's book mentions a little protein on 3+ hour rides. If you got low body fat you can apparently risk burning into muscle.
I took this as a green light to add about 20g of protein over a 5 hour ride in the form of 2 bars (the protein is from nuts). It satisfies hunger nicely.
This messes with the use of carbs?