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@skinnywheels
thanks skully, I'm doing my best but he's leaving me hanging =-O , I think it's coz he thinks he'll get more from me :-) . I just want to get head around the fixed and free wheel thing! Just literally went around the block on my mates set up as a fixie and nearly died! Went down a short steep hill and was some what out of control going onto the to at the bottom. Thanks I'm glad I came onto this forum many people have been really friendly and helpful however there are way too many nice bikes around at good cheers Jon