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  • Dr. Hutch wrote an article on it:
    http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/blog/dr-hutch-still-terrifying-ride-london-120509

    Personally, I'm a fan of getting the fuck off any big streets as fast as physically possible. Riding in London scares me.
    I can ride along at a slower pace as long as I'm on little tiny streets, with little or no other bicycle traffic.
    The Hire bikes have allowed me to explore new routes away from the crowds, and that's been good.

  • Interesting, perhaps more a London (and parts of other big cities) problem than a Britain problem then?

  • Possibly a big city problem. It happens when there's a large amount of fast-moving traffic and aggression, I think. If you don't see that combination frequently then you shouldn't be affected as much.

  • "I suppose it’s because walking is ‘normal’, though ‘normal’ is of course a relative concept. When the first fish developed legs and strode off up the beach, all the other fish must have told it to wear a helmet and a hi-viz vest, before issuing an editorial demanding that walking fish pass a test and wear registration plates."

    I loled

  • For any other town in the UK just visit outer London. Just as fast, but more hostile and terrifying.

    My opinion is that the change needed to get from this to everyone in the road together, all respectfully pootling along at the desired speed of the slowest person, ain't worth it. On roads where speed is a problem, separate, like we do for pedestrians already. Side roads can stay as they are, or better yet, filter the cars out like in de Beauvoir etc.

    That might be seen as misrepresenting shared space, but that's what it would have to be to allow anyone to get out riding.

  • Personally, I'm a fan of getting the fuck off any big streets as fast as physically possible. Riding in London scares me.
    I can ride along at a slower pace as long as I'm on little tiny streets, with little or no other bicycle traffic.

    My route to work is all A roads. Periodically I look for another route using quiet, side roads and I have a few that are OK outside of rush hour.

    As soon as the traffic gets busier though these become full of cars and you've got a choice of either loads of traffic, buses, hgvs, etc but a bus lane to ride in (for a part of the route) or narrower roads but full of parked cars and "traffic calming" measures so you need to spend the commute out in primary with a queue of angry cars building up who get frustrated and try to overtake at stupid times.

    Basically, both are shit options.

  • Hi Oliver, with regard to Clissold walkabout previously discussed, I heard that there were problems in developing a road scheme for the area previously because of Police routes to and from SN police station which are protected somehow. I'm looking into it.

  • Yes, that's a known issue. There will certainly need to be a good deal of work with all the emergency services, not only the police.

  • An LCC volunteer has just produced this mapping of 2011 census data.

    http://datashine.org.uk/#zoom=12&lat=51.53963&lon=-0.12254&layers=BTTT&table=QS701EW&col=QS701EW0010&ramp=YlOrRd

    That's interesting stuff.

    Looking at the seas of maroon, it's no wonder there are so many effing cyclists on the road in Cambridge.

  • I am not sure this should come under campaigning, exactly, but:

    https://twitter.com/roadccdave/status/482087643778650113

  • haven't TfL just said that they're shitcanning those stupid stickers?

    i spose they'll make nice coasters...

  • An LCC volunteer has just produced this mapping of 2011 census data.

    http://datashine.org.uk/#zoom=12&lat=51.53963&lon=-0.12254&layers=BTTT&table=QS701EW&col=QS701EW0010&ramp=YlOrRd

    Interesting stuff. One interesting statistic is the disparity between those who travel to work driving a car or van and those who travel as a passenger.

    The big difference suggests that a large number of cars/vans have single occupants which is clearly inefficient.

  • I like this campaign:

  • What the fuck? Don again?

  • Apparently a die-in within each of 33 boroughs.

    https://twitter.com/StopKillingCycl/status/483012263528652801

  • ^ and WTF does that prove?

    If I was riding past in a car and saw that bunch of podgy-plump-fat-people lying all over the road, I would call an ambulance and the police.

    Fucking Sportive riders being knobs.

  • Wow. Homophobia. So fucking cool.

  • ^^ Fuck off with the homophobia, would you?

  • ^^^ Ahhhh, upset some I see...

    When I were a lad, the term "faggot" meant a ball or roll of seasoned chopped liver, baked or fried.

    Now, it seems it is a homosexual.

    As this site is "so-right-on", I don't want to offend anyone (like I'm worried) so I will change the word to plump-fat-people.

    Carry on, fence dwellers...

  • yeah, it's the rest of us with the problem.

    twelm.

  • I have supported Donnachadh, even though I don't fully agree with his style....he genuinely wants to improve things and has put loads of energy into this campaign. His background is dance and the theatre so it didn't surprise me when he came up with this dramatic, possibly over the top stuff. Fine, you don't agree with it, so don't support it, no one is going to insult you because of your choice. Not like the nasty way some people here have chosen to insult those who have decided to support him. Totally incorrectly as well....at least get your insults on target. Sad.

  • i don't agree with his antics as he sets out to deliberately antagonise the one organisation that could make the most positive impact - TfL.

    I've yet to see what he's offering by way of viable alternatives beyond histrionics and affectations. There's plenty of people out there doing good work that don't resort to this sort of am-dram nonsense, yet his fannying about tends to drown out the rest.

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