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@JWestland
Why ow why do many cyclists have their saddles 5 cm too low...was close to shouting a woman to try to help her. But didn't feel like it...some people react to friendly suggestions with shit.
Frame geometry dictates also how far forward/back saddle must be. Steep angles mean saddle must be more rearwards so you don't feel you're pitching forwards, (unless you're on a TT bike with TT bars obv...) slack angles it can be more forwards.
So if you can't reach the bars with ideal saddle fore/aft position, change the stem lest you put a lot of weight on your hands (sore wrists) or Indra your knees (annoyed feeling round tendons/joints).
That's my experience at least. On that note 42 cm from nose of saddle to middle of stem cap seems my optimal reach no matter what of my 4 bikes I'm on. I'll see if I can translate that to the modern stack/reach systems...