Rapha, nice but a bit pricey?

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Chocolate starfish.

(Though only an issue for the person behind.)

If thermal pro team bibs fit perfectly in medium, and I like things a bit tight.

Should I size Down to small for the lightweight bibs?

Also. My thermal PT bibs are probably a little too long. Although thats never bothered me when I use them for the conditions intended. I'd like my summer bibs Shorter, and I've heard the classics are also quite long. It would make sense for the lightweights to be as short as the standard PT bibs. Is this so?

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