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@Mule
Made a tit of myself, I was approaching a cycle path that runs along the M2, to get on it you have to go around the slip road roundabout and partially down the slip road before mounting the curb. This time I had a car sitting on my back wheel as I left the roundabout, so I singled for him to slow and the looked back saw it was clear and made the turn. sadly I think I must have let him intimidate me as I entered the corner twice as fast as normal, half missed the drop curb and then flipped over the bars as the front wheel clubhauled/jackknifed.
Either goes here or bad cyclist thread, should have gone slower was too concerned about a car sitting on back wheel