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  • Ok, so I'm thinking of buying a croix de fer frame and building it up with 8 speed MTB parts. Are all 8 speed parts really shitty quality nowadays? It will need to be a square taper BB.

    Shitty components are shitty, speed/what bike it's aimed doesn't have much to do with it.

    Shimano 8 speed cassettes are cheap and reliable, most standard "9" and "10" speed mechs work set up for 8 speed, it's just a spring after all...

    I can only comment on bar end and down tube shifters, both are mechanically simple and generally very reliable. The friction versions of either make set up and riding even easier.

    Not sure why square taper matters. Cranks are just cranks, I'm running 9 or 10 speed rings and they work fine with an 8 speed chain.

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