Charlie,
Thank you - I will try and contact LCC again in this area, if you could put me in touch with anyone you know to be active here, either that live locally, or that are interested in or have experience in organising this sort of campaign, that would be great. I'm keen to support LCC in this area if they are keen to look at the overall problems in RBKC and not just focus on HSK.
I have seen that website, and that was the final tipping point in going to meet the councilors personally! It's a very good way of generating numbers, but in this ward, it's not specific enough. I got back the standard reply of "yes, we're interested, and we care about cyclist safety', but no specifics. When I asked what they might do - absolutely no ideas came back to me. That's why we need to present a workable scheme. So they can say 'that looks like a good idea, I'll back that', and to save them from having to think for themselves. It's much easier to present someone with an idea, than to ask them to come up with a solution. TheSpace4Cycling campaign is great for publicity, but in this ward at least, short on ideas. The developers, in any case, will say that they have undertaken a safety review on the and limited the number of HGV movements per day on Warwick Road, so they have already factored cycle safety into their project management (I've already spoken at length to their transport consultant at the last public consultation about this).
I agree population turnover is a problem. However, there are a lot of hotels in this area, and many on the main roads. The one-way system hurts their business too. A campaign that involved cyclists, but that also engaged local business and residents would be, in my view, much more likely to be successful. Limiting this campaign to cyclist only is surely short-sighted?
I'll join this group, and repost there, thank you for pointing this out.
Oliver,
Thank you very much again for the summaries. I hadn't found that yahoo group, only a fairly inactive board on LCC.
That's a very interesting point about 'nodes'. In that case, looking at a map, couldn't Warwick Road be two-way - a cycle lane could be on the right hand side of the road up until the turning into Nevern Square, and then the extra space could be used to have a turn left lane, so at the very top by Cromwell Road, two lanes heading north, and one heading south? There is already a short stretch of two-way just north of the junction. If the issue is primarily about 'stacking space' for motor vehicles just before the junction, this problem is really easy to solve.
Charlie,
Thank you - I will try and contact LCC again in this area, if you could put me in touch with anyone you know to be active here, either that live locally, or that are interested in or have experience in organising this sort of campaign, that would be great. I'm keen to support LCC in this area if they are keen to look at the overall problems in RBKC and not just focus on HSK.
I have seen that website, and that was the final tipping point in going to meet the councilors personally! It's a very good way of generating numbers, but in this ward, it's not specific enough. I got back the standard reply of "yes, we're interested, and we care about cyclist safety', but no specifics. When I asked what they might do - absolutely no ideas came back to me. That's why we need to present a workable scheme. So they can say 'that looks like a good idea, I'll back that', and to save them from having to think for themselves. It's much easier to present someone with an idea, than to ask them to come up with a solution. TheSpace4Cycling campaign is great for publicity, but in this ward at least, short on ideas. The developers, in any case, will say that they have undertaken a safety review on the and limited the number of HGV movements per day on Warwick Road, so they have already factored cycle safety into their project management (I've already spoken at length to their transport consultant at the last public consultation about this).
I agree population turnover is a problem. However, there are a lot of hotels in this area, and many on the main roads. The one-way system hurts their business too. A campaign that involved cyclists, but that also engaged local business and residents would be, in my view, much more likely to be successful. Limiting this campaign to cyclist only is surely short-sighted?
I'll join this group, and repost there, thank you for pointing this out.
Oliver,
Thank you very much again for the summaries. I hadn't found that yahoo group, only a fairly inactive board on LCC.
That's a very interesting point about 'nodes'. In that case, looking at a map, couldn't Warwick Road be two-way - a cycle lane could be on the right hand side of the road up until the turning into Nevern Square, and then the extra space could be used to have a turn left lane, so at the very top by Cromwell Road, two lanes heading north, and one heading south? There is already a short stretch of two-way just north of the junction. If the issue is primarily about 'stacking space' for motor vehicles just before the junction, this problem is really easy to solve.